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Shallow gaiwans

by thanks » Nov 5th, '08, 16:25

Well, I absolutely love gaiwans. They can be used for anything, really. My white standard 100ml gaiwan is getting a little stale though. Not to mention it's starting to crack from all the hell I've put it through. I was looking to replace it, but I wanted one a little sturdier and prettier. I came across this one on DTH, http://cgi.ebay.com/Lotus-Blue-and-Whit ... m153.l1262

I really love the style. Where can I find more gaiwans like this? Are they referred to as shallow gaiwans, or just plain gaiwans? I'd love to own this set but it's far too large for what I wish to use it for. I want a shallow gaiwan that's not over 100ml.

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by Chip » Nov 5th, '08, 22:59

Most of the ones styled this way seem to be larger as well. TeaSpring has a few that are really "stylin'" but are bigger than what you are looking for.
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by Vulture » Nov 5th, '08, 23:48

I don't see a Dish for the gaiwan. Your going to have a mighty fine time holding that thing!

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by Chip » Nov 6th, '08, 00:30

Vulture wrote:I don't see a Dish for the gaiwan. Your going to have a mighty fine time holding that thing!
Usually 3 finger method is used for wide rim gaiwan like this. Unless all your hand's nerve endings are already dead. The gaiwan is handled only at the top and lid with the 3 finger method.

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by gingkoseto » Nov 6th, '08, 08:34

This looks more of a teapot than a "wan" (bowl). But it's nice! It looks like some Taiwan style, combining trends of Chinese tea bowl (gaiwan) and Japanese small teapot (I think Salsero has something from Japan, of this bowl-pot shape, but a different cool metal style).

The modern trend of making gaiwan is to use very thin porcelain, pretty but finger killer :P Especially when it's used for gong fu tea. Traditionally in China, the main stream use of gaiwan was for green tea. The saucer should have deep enough cup holder, so the user just hold the saucer and the lid to control the bowl and no need to touch the hot bowl. In green tea brewing, the use of the lid is mainly wave away loose leaves to the other side of the bowl and let the user hold the bowl between the the lid and saucer.
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by thanks » Nov 6th, '08, 11:42

Yeah if I'm brewing greens in my gaiwan (which is really rare) I'll use the three finger method because the water's not super hot. Well, it's still hot, but not nearly as hot as when I brew aged pu'er, or wuyi oolongs.

Hmm, it's really a shame these are larger than normal gaiwans, as I wish to use this for young sheng, and 150ml is pretty large for that. I might have to go with yixing instead.

Since we're on the subject though, I am looking for a very small yixing pot for wuyi oolong. Anyone know where I can find one roughly 70ml?

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by TaiPing Hou Kui » Nov 7th, '08, 00:59

Hey! Chinese Teapot Gallery on ebay has a lot of great small yixing pots. Here is the link: http://stores.ebay.com/Chinese-Teapot-G ... ea-Culture they have some as small as 30ml...so Im sure you can find one in there that you like!

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by t4texas » Nov 7th, '08, 01:42

TaiPing Hou Kui wrote:Hey! Chinese Teapot Gallery on ebay has a lot of great small yixing pots. Here is the link: http://stores.ebay.com/Chinese-Teapot-G ... ea-Culture they have some as small as 30ml...so Im sure you can find one in there that you like!

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I have several tea pots from the CTG and have a good relationship with the dealer. For brewing purposes I can not recommend any pot at CTG that costs less than $12, and they have no small pots at $12 or above. So I am looking for a source, too, for small 60 - 70 ml pots.

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by inspectoring » Nov 7th, '08, 23:24

t4texas wrote:
TaiPing Hou Kui wrote:Hey! Chinese Teapot Gallery on ebay has a lot of great small yixing pots. Here is the link: http://stores.ebay.com/Chinese-Teapot-G ... ea-Culture they have some as small as 30ml...so Im sure you can find one in there that you like!

-Nick (TaiPing)
I have several tea pots from the CTG and have a good relationship with the dealer. For brewing purposes I can not recommend any pot at CTG that costs less than $12, and they have no small pots at $12 or above. So I am looking for a source, too, for small 60 - 70 ml pots.
May I recommend this one?

http://www.artisticnippon.com/product/t ... kanna.html

its a beautiful one....I think I posted a link asking people for their opinion....and it was universally positive....I am awaiting delivery....

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by Chip » Nov 8th, '08, 00:13

:D Ummm, the OP is looking for gaiwan-s. :roll:
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by t4texas » Nov 8th, '08, 00:14

inspectoring wrote:
t4texas wrote:
TaiPing Hou Kui wrote:Hey! Chinese Teapot Gallery on ebay has a lot of great small yixing pots. Here is the link: http://stores.ebay.com/Chinese-Teapot-G ... ea-Culture they have some as small as 30ml...so Im sure you can find one in there that you like!

-Nick (TaiPing)
I have several tea pots from the CTG and have a good relationship with the dealer. For brewing purposes I can not recommend any pot at CTG that costs less than $12, and they have no small pots at $12 or above. So I am looking for a source, too, for small 60 - 70 ml pots.
May I recommend this one?

http://www.artisticnippon.com/product/t ... kanna.html

its a beautiful one....I think I posted a link asking people for their opinion....and it was universally positive....I am awaiting delivery....
That's a great Japanese teapot and I plan on getting that very one next year for Sencha. But it's not a 60 - 70 ml gongfu pot; it's a 150 ml pot.

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by t4texas » Nov 8th, '08, 00:22

Chip wrote::D Ummm, the OP is looking for gaiwan-s. :roll:
Actually, he started out looking for gaiwans and then threw a tiny Yixing into the conversation.

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by Chip » Nov 8th, '08, 00:49

Heh...misssed that one. :oops:
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by thanks » Nov 8th, '08, 01:22

Also, still not a small yixing pot.

I think I might end up getting the shallow gaiwan in the op anyway. Finding a smaller one seems to be a fruitless endeavor. I will definitely hold out on a small yixing though, and until then I'll brew my wuyi in my gaiwan, or just not at all.

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by t4texas » Nov 8th, '08, 01:25

I am encouraging CTG to get some 60 - 90 ml pots with decent clay, but if he does it will not be right away.

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