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by Salsero » Jan 4th, '09, 15:35

I've been having a devil of a time trying to find something useful to say about these gyokuro samples. They are all lovely, they all taste like gyokuro, but I suspect that my limited experience with gyo is making it hard for me to verbalize how they taste different from each other and from the two other gyokuro that I have had.

Let me take a stab at the Gyokuro "Gyoku-Hou" from O-Cha. The first time I brewed this, I went with less than usual leaf as Chip suggested because I was worried about astringency. The second round, however, I brewed full regular strength and I think I prefer it that way: 6.0 grams in 90 ml, 130° F in preheated Korean toin pot, 90 s, 15 s, 25 s, 1 m, 90 s.

Like Chip says, more "bitey" than the others, but I really enjoyed that kick. I also found more acidity, a mouth-watering hint of sour on the side of the tongue that I also enjoyed. Somewhat lighter in flavor than my benchmark Kame-Giru-Shi, but still with the incredible "brothy" taste of high umami that seems to be the hallmark of gyokuro. Sometimes I get this brothy sensation from sencha, but it is usually accompanied by excess astringency, off flavors, or bitterness. Gyokuro has the smooth, relaxing feel of slipping into a warm bubble bath. There were also some pleasantly floral aftertastes, nothing with the intensity of a good hui gan from sheng puerh but very engaging nevertheless.

RE the the darling little rice pattern cup and saucer: is there a story behind that? Where do they come from and what did we do to deserve them?

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Once I finish the last of the Kuradashi sample, I have a Maiko Gyokuro Fugenji-Midori to open.
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by fencerdenoctum » Jan 5th, '09, 00:30

Just tried the G sample. I fell in love at first sip!

First steep was a lil weak, and second steep my water was a bit too hot so the brew had a lot of bite to it but some of the wagashi a friend brought me from japan eased that a bit. On the third I found the middle ground and produced a heavenly cup. Really smooth with a little bit of bite at the end. After drinking this one I am beginning to see what Sal means by it having a "broth" kind of taste.

Now on to the Kuradashi!

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by Chip » Jan 5th, '09, 00:54

I hope everyone has received the tea and surprise in each box (like Cracker Jacks)?

The Gyoko Hou was a little bit of a challenge for me for some reason, but after a couple tries, it really sings. I think it is a bit unforgiving compared to some. But it is very good when you get it right.

The cups were found in Philly's China town. Could not resist sharing them with participants in this tasting. Was $20 each too much to pay for the cups? :lol: Thanks for the comments on the cups, and it was fun seeing them in photos on the forum. A select few who were "involved" in this tasting also received the saucers. Enjoy.
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by Salsero » Jan 5th, '09, 01:06

Chip wrote: The cups were found in Philly's China town.
Genuine Philadelphia rice pattern ceramic ... now that is a niche that was crying out to be filled!


They really are very nice pieces. Thanks, Chip.

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by Sydney » Jan 5th, '09, 19:55

I definitely don't have much of a meaningful contribution to the dialogue.

They taste like REALLY REALLY GREEN tea.

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by Wesli » Jan 22nd, '09, 02:10

Finally tasted the first of three. Thanks everyone who threw in on this.

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by joelbct » Feb 18th, '09, 21:25

Better late than never...

I left New York in October, and these 3 were forwarded to me just recently. Great timing, I've just about run out of Japanese Green, what with moving expenses. Finished the last of my personal gyo and sencha stash today actually.

So I will finally get around to sampling in the next couple days. They hadnt been refrigerated, but NY is rather cold in the winter, so my bet is that they will be drinkable... I'll post results.

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by Chip » Feb 18th, '09, 21:42

A little aging hopefully did not hurt them. I hope you enjoy them as much as I did. I learned a lot about gyokuro through this tasting.
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by joelbct » Feb 18th, '09, 22:03

Chip wrote:A little aging hopefully did not hurt them. I hope you enjoy them as much as I did. I learned a lot about gyokuro through this tasting.
Yah the 08 Ito En Uji Gyo I finished today was still great, vibrant and umami-ish, smooth, no complaints at all, so I am def looking forward to these 3... Thanks!

ps, i like sal's 'brothy' as an apt adjective for that not-bitter, savory gyo 'fullness' taste...

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by Salsero » Feb 18th, '09, 22:06

Gyo is normally aged a bit anyway, no?

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by Chip » Feb 18th, '09, 22:20

Salsero wrote:Gyo is normally aged a bit anyway, no?
There is shincha gyo, but I ain't buying into it. Traditional gyo is aged at least 6 months I think. Kuradashi much longer.
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by Pentox » Feb 18th, '09, 22:49

Chip wrote:
Salsero wrote:Gyo is normally aged a bit anyway, no?
There is shincha gyo, but I ain't buying into it. Traditional gyo is aged at least 6 months I think. Kuradashi much longer.
Hibiki-an's was 18 months if I remember correctly.

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by Chip » Feb 18th, '09, 23:32

Pentox wrote:Hibiki-an's was 18 months if I remember correctly.
Yeah, I read that for hibiki as well. But somewhere I read about a 5 year old kuradashi, not hibiki.
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by joelbct » Feb 20th, '09, 19:57

Here are my notes so far:

Shincha F: Citrus, subtle, succulent, smooth texture, a bit brothy, "ocean-ey." Good stuff.

Shincha G: Less intense than F, less brothy, noticeably tencha/matcha-ish (no surprise i guess), no bitterness but slight acidity/puckery-ness. Not overly impressed with this one.

Prefer F so far. Have to try K tomorrow, will post my thoughts.

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