The amount of tea that I was using was a surprise to me as well, I only weighed it for the review.
The only Gong fu lesson I have ever received was from a local tea store, the lovely young lady explained how the tea leaves open and should almost fill the vessel while brewing. I am not sure if she is "right" or not.
I have been attempting to brew tea in a intuitive fashion and not weigh or time things.
Well for instance, right now I'm in the middle of a session with 2007 Mu Ye Chun 001 sheng from Scott. I used a little bit over 11g for this one, came out really wonderful. A little bit of smoke in the background, but its got a great sweet woody flavor to it. I've experienced a lot of hui gan with sweetness, but this one has a long woody aftertaste, quite a different experience.taitea wrote:Can you tell us which cakes ~10g worked particularly well for?
I find a lot of the tuos I have tried have been rather smokey or astringent and that would be my exception. Other than that though, I tend to use MUCH more than it seems most around here do. For my 140ml yixing I've done some shengs 10 or even 11 grams, I usually stay around 8-9 grams though. I don't know if its my tastes, the sheng ive been drinking, my pot, my water, or a number of other random factors but it seems if I used less leaf, say around 5g which seems to be pretty standard in most cases, I would never be able to get a cup with enough flavor doing short gong fu brewing.taitea wrote:I tried doing 7.5g in 150ml for a while but I found it to be overkill. Everything turned out bitter/astringent. I have no idea how 8g in 100ml could work. Different tastes, different teas I guess. I'm going back to doing ~5.5g in 150ml.Salsero wrote: Is everyone using this much leaf for everything? Maybe upping the dose this much might change my feelings about a number of things. I think especially of those engaging by light cakes by Mengku Shuangjiang!
Just my two cents
I tried doing 7.5g in 150ml for a while but I found it to be overkill. Everything turned out bitter/astringent. I have no idea how 8g in 100ml could work. Different tastes, different teas I guess. I'm going back to doing ~5.5g in 150ml.Salsero wrote: Is everyone using this much leaf for everything? Maybe upping the dose this much might change my feelings about a number of things. I think especially of those engaging by light cakes by Mengku Shuangjiang!
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Small World file: I just started a session last night with this same tea and planned to continue it tonight.Goose wrote:2002 Hai Lang Hao Mengku Wild Arbor
review here-
http://www.badgerandblade.com/vb/showpo ... tcount=422
I was disappointed as it seemed awfully light. Now I see that you are using almost exactly twice as much leaf, and getting the sort of results I crave. After 4 infusions last night, should I just add leaf to the pot tonight and proceed from there? Or would it be more fair to the tea to just start over with the heftier dose. Decisions, decisions.
In any event, Goose, thanks for sharing these important details just in the nick of time.
Is everyone using this much leaf for everything? Maybe upping the dose this much might change my feelings about a number of things. I think especially of those engaging by light cakes by Mengku Shuangjiang!
2002 Hai Lang Hao Mengku Wild Arbor
review here-
http://www.badgerandblade.com/vb/showpo ... tcount=422
review here-
http://www.badgerandblade.com/vb/showpo ... tcount=422
2008 Xiaguan FT "Nan Zhao Round Cake"
5.5g in 150ml pot
Astringency - small
Smoke - sometimes
Dryness-(mouth) - small
Mouthfeel - mediocre
Hui gan - small
Flavor - too subdued
Overall value - you can do better, but you can do worse
Purchase again - no
The initial rinses didn't give off very nice aromas. It smelt pretty smokey. But once I got to my first proper infusion most of that was gone. However, there still wasn't anything very special there. Basically this seems like a decent drink-now cake, but I don't love it.
5.5g in 150ml pot
Astringency - small
Smoke - sometimes
Dryness-(mouth) - small
Mouthfeel - mediocre
Hui gan - small
Flavor - too subdued
Overall value - you can do better, but you can do worse
Purchase again - no
The initial rinses didn't give off very nice aromas. It smelt pretty smokey. But once I got to my first proper infusion most of that was gone. However, there still wasn't anything very special there. Basically this seems like a decent drink-now cake, but I don't love it.
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That order was heavily influenced by you and some other denizens of this forum.thanks wrote: Please tell me how the DHP is, where you got it, and if it was worth the price. I even like the bad ones!
The DHP is the YSLLC Big Red Robe that Trioxin sent me a sample of and I went bananas for it. I got the 250 gr package @ $22 ($19 if you know the secret handshake), but it is also available in a 100 gram size. It's pretty good, but if you factor in the price, it is very good, lots of chocolate and vanilla notes, and at this price I'm not afraid to load up the gaiwan like you're supposed to.
Now that's my kinda tea order!Salsero wrote:90% of us are, so don't be shy. I had some of this Long Yuan Hao also and found it nice, but not extraordinary.JP wrote: I'm still somewhat new to puerh, so take my opinions with that in mind.
Just about to go into my cup: DHP. Makes me feel guilty that I am neglecting my pu, especially since today's mail brought meSo what do I drink while I catalog them? Wuyi Yan Cha! How uncouth!
- 2008 Menghai Big Classic, 801
2008 Menghai "Da Yi Hong"
2008 Menghai "0622"
2008 Menghai "8582," 801
2008 Xiaguan FT "Nan Zhao Round Cake"
Please tell me how the DHP is, where you got it, and if it was worth the price. I even like the bad ones! I can't say the same for Rou Gui though...
