Chao Zhou Teapot?

[MarshalN]

Zhang is a last name, like Li, Wu, and many, many more.

[lastcoyote]

Wonderful pot indeed, Lastcoyote!!

..this new little chap is the Chao Zhou #24 (110ml) by 'Wu Pei Liang' from Imen.

Is that the same Master Wu as this one shown again here but younger.

And what does Zhang mean?

it may very well be the same mr Wu. I dont know for sure. Great videos though. yeah as has been said Zhang as in: Zhang Yan Ming. The maker of the other Chao Zhou pots Imen sells.

[Salsero]

Thanks, MarshalN and Lastcoyote. I Googled Zhang Yan Ming and found an old blog post of Imen's (with a comment by me!) about this family. Back then I didn't realize that the Chao Zhou pots were so different from the Yixing pots.

I had also forgotten about Peterliem's helpful note on page 6 of this thread where he quotes private correspondence from Imen about the Zhang family's technique.

I am very tempted to get one of those Master Wu pots before they are all gone. Very attractive.

[Salsero]

I got a reply form Imen about the Master Wu pots on her website. She said:

• The person on both video is the father of the person
  made my pots. The father's pots are around $500+ each.

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and later added:

• I forgot to mention is they use the same clay, just
  made by different hands. Worthy or not depends on practically
  and collectibility.

[Maitre_Tea]

I wonder how much the Zhang and Wu factories are actually family-run, and how many of the people they employ are within the family. I can imagine turf wars going on between these two families...especially since they seem like the "big" names when it comes to Chao Zhou teapots

[lastcoyote]

I got a reply form Imen about the Master Wu pots on her website. She said:

• The person on both video is the father of the person
  made my pots. The father's pots are around $500+ each.

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and later added:

• I forgot to mention is they use the same clay, just
  made by different hands. Worthy or not depends on practically
  and collectibility.

oh cool, nice one on asking Imen about it.
nice that it's kept in the family. what a great art to be born into.
yeah..$500 is a little bit of a stretch

[Oni]

For 500 $ you can buy vintage DHP clay, or lao zhu ni teapots.

[David R.]

Hi everyone !

Is it possible to have some feedback on the Wu Pei Liang pots ? Do they tend to crack like the cheaper ones ? Are they performing well with Dan Congs ?

Thanks in advance.

[zencha]

Worth the money ; go for it .

[Maitre_Tea]

Hi everyone !

Is it possible to have some feedback on the Wu Pei Liang pots ? Do they tend to crack like the cheaper ones ? Are they performing well with Dan Congs ?

Thanks in advance.

From what I know they don't crack, and as to their performance with Dan Cong, I think they're "meant" to be brewed with DC, since they're from the same area and all. The pots are designed, both in clay, shape, thickness, etc. to complement Dan Cong.

Does anyone know if these pots are good for any other kinds of tea?

[Tead Off]

Hi everyone !

Is it possible to have some feedback on the Wu Pei Liang pots ? Do they tend to crack like the cheaper ones ? Are they performing well with Dan Congs ?

Thanks in advance.

From what I know they don't crack, and as to their performance with Dan Cong, I think they're "meant" to be brewed with DC, since they're from the same area and all. The pots are designed, both in clay, shape, thickness, etc. to complement Dan Cong.

Does anyone know if these pots are good for any other kinds of tea?

Didn't I read on Imen's blog that these pots do tend to crack if they are not carefully prepped for each session? I believe she has cracked several herself. I have a very thin walled pot which has cracked. Such a shame.

These pots should be good for greener oolongs like Taiwanese gaoshan I would think, even TGY.

[Maitre_Tea]

The cheaper ones crack while the more expensive ones don't. The cheaper ones feature thinner walls whereas the more expensive ones have thicker walls.

[wyardley]

Well I would imagine they would be most ideal for teas that have long been brewed in Chaozhou and in the Chaozhou diaspora... mostly high-fire Tieguanyin, Wuyi yancha, and Dancong. I have a small Chaozhou shuiping which is one of the pots I use for high-fire Tieguanyin. At first, I didn't like the results, but sometimes I actually prefer the results to those I get with a zisha pot.

[Tead Off]

The cheaper ones crack while the more expensive ones don't. The cheaper ones feature thinner walls whereas the more expensive ones have thicker walls.

Do you mean the Wu pots vs the zhang pots? I was under the impression she was using good pots. Do you know which ones she used?

[Maitre_Tea]

The cheaper ones crack while the more expensive ones don't. The cheaper ones feature thinner walls whereas the more expensive ones have thicker walls.

Do you mean the Wu pots vs the zhang pots? I was under the impression she was using good pots. Do you know which ones she used?

Yes, I was talking about the differences between the Wu (expensive) and Zhang (cheaper) pots. She sells both, and although I can't speak for her brewing vessel of choice for personal usage, she used a gaiwan during my tasting with her. She told that if I wanted she could brew tea out of a Wu pot to see if there was a difference, but I never got around to asking. I think they're both suited for Dan Cong, but at least according to Imen's findings (which she documented on her blog), the Wu pots did better, though some participants preferred the gaiwan, showing that there's a time and place not to use a pot.