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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by BioHorn » Feb 7th, '11, 20:34

Hello,
Just opened up a bag of eBay seller Dragon Tea House (Gordon)
2010 "Honey Orchid" Feng Huang Phoenix Oolong
100 grams cost $16.

Can someone please chime in about the effect of stems in tea (especially Phoenix Oolong?) I imagine it makes for a higher profit margin. How does it alter the brew? Should one go through and remove all the stems beforehand? I took some images below to illustrate.

(sorry for the lack of photos of the tea brewed in a cup) The color looked like a "typical" Phoenix medium strength tea (light amber-hoey color.)
The tea in a preheated gaiwan gave a nice round tropical-floral smell.

It brewed well to about the 7-8th infusion. Nice floral notes and mouthfeel with moderate astringency tapering to core of flavor. 4th infusion was the best. Being the first time trying it I did not try to push this tea very hard. I think it is a good tea at a fair price. Probably not from super old bushes...I will enjoy working through what I bought.

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There were what seemed like a large number of stems in 5.5 grams of leaf:
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This photo should give you an idea of stem to leaf ratio:
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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by Poohblah » Feb 7th, '11, 23:21

BioHorn wrote:Can someone please chime in about the effect of stems in tea (especially Phoenix Oolong?) I imagine it makes for a higher profit margin. How does it alter the brew? Should one go through and remove all the stems beforehand?
I haven't enough experience to say what effects large amounts of stems has, but I always assume that whatever ended up in the final product was intentional. If a large number of stems creates a poor brew, then I simply won't buy that tea again. In my opinion, if you remove stems and other "foreign" objects before brewing the tea, then you are essentially drinking a different tea from the one you bought.

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by tenuki » Feb 8th, '11, 02:05

I love stems in my tea. My absolute favorite baozhong right now is so twiggy as to be ridiculous. My rule for drinking green tea is that it must have stems - those green teas without tend to upset my stomach. I can drink kokicha on it's own no problem, sencha I have to drink while eating food.

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by teaisme » Feb 8th, '11, 14:12

tenuki wrote:I love stems in my tea
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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by debunix » Feb 8th, '11, 18:23

Autumn Long Juan Tie Guan Yin from jing tea shop

This is a lovely, floral, spicy-sweet TGY, entirely as expected from Jing Tea Shop. Reliable tea happiness, brewed up a little today in a small gaiwan, enough leaf to just cover the bottom when rolled tightly, which fills the cup entirely and is trying to sneak out the top as it has unfurled completely. When I get impatient to get the water back to 205 degrees, the leaves forgive and at 185 still give a tasty brewn. Many steeps of sweet spicy floral delight!

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by nickE » Feb 8th, '11, 18:31

TeaMasters 2010 'subtropical forest' baozhong. Velvety & powdery are the words that come to mind when brewing this.

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by BioHorn » Feb 8th, '11, 19:01

TeaMasters Autumn 2009 Hung Shui Olong from Feng Huang
Stephane's tea.
Yummy slightly malty creamy balanced. Still enjoying the lingering flavor on the back of my throat. Nice to have such a well crafted tea. Peaked at a wonderful round structured cup on brew three. Started to fade at the fifth brew. Might leave it overnight at 6 or 7. Oh, did I mention it was balanced?

I think this tea saw a skilled roast. Just right.

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Pic may be lightened a bit too much. The leaves had a nice faint thin thin red line around the edges.
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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by debunix » Feb 8th, '11, 19:58

Drinking something rather similar right now: Hou De 2009 winter wood-roasted shui xian

Just writing another love note to this interesting tea, which has such an interesting combo of sweet fruity (plum/peach/cherry) floral notes, and spicy herby backup (cinnamon, cloves, thyme). It is a bright light green deeply rolled tea that looks like it should be a new-style TGY, but when the water hits the leaves it’s much more Dan Cong-like. And the flavor varies and unfolds infusion by infusion, just delightful stuff, one sweeter and mellower (very short), one more spicy and full of intrigue (longer). But can't write about in too much detail because I need to run back and refill the kettle so I don't have to stop drinking!

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by puerhking » Feb 9th, '11, 16:56

08 Shui Xian Dan Cong -

Quite tasty...some of the flowery flavors have subsided and now I like this much better than when I first got it.

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by Herb_Master » Feb 10th, '11, 08:28

Back in Jing Dian today.

Today started with a 28 year old purposefully aged Shui Xian grown about 1/2 km from the original Da hong Pao.

Smooth, Dark and Rich bodied. Did I say smooth, I mean ultra smooth, but for my palate the smoothness made it less interesting, So I did not buy.

2nd a younger Shui Xian from 2007 and just off the map from the central scenic area - it had more bite than the 28 year old and I was tempted to buy, but resisted.

3rd a 1992 Tie Luo Han, TLH I think of as possibly my favourite, but this had an offputting aroma that I did not like, my fellow drinkers explained this musty pungency was to be expected with certain types of aging and was sought - but not by me.

Finally a young but interesting oolong from across the valley from the original Tie Luo Han. Ai Jiao Oolong the few bushes are stunted dwarfs that do not grow very high only about 2 feet high hence the name Ai Jiao or "Short Legs". As a fairly young set of bushes yet to develop deep root structures (about 40 years old someone hazarded a guess but noone knew for sure) but with a snaqll element of mineral and roast they had an effervescence and sprightliness that caught my attention - I bought 2 packs of 50gm.

(footnote for Pu Lovers -I then went on to a 2nd tea haunt where amongst other Shengs I had 1000 year old Tree blend Xiaguan and some north Yunnan so called rice wine - so called because it has the aroma of Pandan leaves which are a conmon addition to rice dishes)

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by tortoise » Feb 10th, '11, 09:04

Last night I resurrected a 2007 Lin-Tou DanCong "MiLan" (I don't know which aspects of the name are crucial) from Hou De that was shared by a teachatter. It has a distinct Peach note in smell and flavor, along with a drying, dark roasty flavor...somewhat acidic in the mouth. Enjoyable certainly.

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by Ambrose » Feb 10th, '11, 10:02

da yu ling, bazhong 2nd place winner, both winter harvest. :mrgreen:

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by Poohblah » Feb 10th, '11, 13:25

tortoise wrote:Last night I resurrected a 2007 Lin-Tou DanCong "MiLan" (I don't know which aspects of the name are crucial)
"Dancong" is the name of a type of oolong and refers to the tea plant itself. Dancongs are often named by their fragrance, or "xiang." "Milan" means magnolia. A common kind of Dancong is milan xiang, meaning magnolia fragrance. So your Dancong is a milan xiang, and Lin-Tou probably is the name of the farm, brand, vendor, location of the tea tree, or something like that.

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by Herb_Master » Feb 10th, '11, 14:46

Mi Lan is usually translated as meaning "Honey Orchid'
Yu Lan is usually translated as "Magnolia"

Many Dan Congs come from Wu Dong mountain in the Phoenix (FengHaung) mountains.

The Hou De blog suggests that Lin Tou DCs come from a seperate area, and that the plantations there encourage a different character to the Wu Dong Dcs.

http://houdeblog.com/?p=118
After almost a year’s search and preparation, we are very excited to starting offering our select Feng Huang Dan Cong!

FengHuang DanCong gets its name from the major production area in the Wu Dong mountain plantations, Feng Huang county, Guang Dong. As a generic name, it actually covers at least three production area: Wu Dong of Feng Huang, Lin Tou of Pin Xi, and Da-Zhi mountain of Shi-Gu-Pin village. Because of the difference in microclimate and cultivars in those neighboring plantations, they are have their own unique focus and characters.

Its naming is as complex as the system of Wuyi yen cha, but mostly uses its more focused fragrance as the name. So, when we mention “Mi Lan (Honey Orchid)” dancong, it is not only the tea’s product name but also its cultivar name. Cultivars were naturally originated from sexual propagation (seeds) of parent tea trees, but later was selected and propagated by asexual ways such as cuttings, much like yen cha.

Dancongs share some similar characters as Wuyi yen cha, but there are definitely distinct differences. From its shape, you can rightly guess dancongs, like bao zhong, inherited Wuyi yen cha’s tradition and skills. They are all oxidized to at least 25% to 35%, and undergo lengthy wood roasting process that is quite labor-intensive. But in general the oxidation and roasting degree for dancongs are lighter than yen cha.

The quality of dancongs is majorly determined by the growing conditions (especially elevations), tea tree’s age and surely the producer’s skill. The whole WuDong or LinTou plantation area cover elevation from 450m to more than 1200m height. In general, old bushes produce better dancongs quality as their roots are deeper in the soils and absorb more complete range of nutrients and minerals.

Brewing dancongs is a lot of fun, especially with our select premium dancongs that all have beautiful and complete leaves and the aroma and taste are superbly clean, focused and refined. You will be surprised by the strength and the durability of them: I would recommend using a slightly cooler water temperature (~195 to 200F) than for yen cha, and keep the steeping time less than 45 seconds.

We are glad to offer at least four different dancongs for our dear customers: Mi Lan (Lin Tou dancong), Ba Xian (Wu Dong), Lan Xian (Orchid Fragrance), and unique Huang Jing (Golden). In a near future, a precious 15-year aged dancong will arrive!

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Re: What Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by TIM » Feb 10th, '11, 15:23

Drinking a 2006 Wuyi Dancong Yancha from the Heaven Heart cliff. Blinding Qi 8)

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