Dragon Well

[Chip]

+1 Entropy.

I have heard a rumor that Amazing Green Tea (AGT) is changing their name to BST due to their commitment to truth in advertising.

Seriously, I ain't buyin'.

[bagua7]

I was suspicious about that site and all the marketing behind it, especially when using the term "tribute", which is basically the average xi hu long jing.

But wait, those prices are high even for average dragon well.

I will stick to the two recommended sites so far: jing tea house and tea spring.

Thanks!

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Chip,

Very funny


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Another question, I would like to try the bird's tongue (que she long jing) variety as I read it has a strong aroma and taste of sweetness. I did a Google search and only come across this online dealer: Silk Road Teas.

Any experiences with them?

[debunix]

jing tea house

jingteashop.com is not the same as jingtea.com. And while I've had some very fine dragon well from Wing Hop Fung, the labelling makes it hard to tell which if any was actually from long jing. The deepest and most lasting flavor came from the imperial Shih Feng long jing from jingteashop, with the versions from wing hop Fung being less astringent and nutty but also sweeter.

[TwoPynts]

"The deepest and most lasting flavor came from the imperial Shih Feng long jing from jingteashop, with the versions from wing hop Fung being less astringent and nutty but also sweeter."

Do you have a link by chance?

[TIM]

http://www.redcircletea.com/redcirclete ... green.html

http://www.redcircletea.com/blog/?p=368

These two girls sounded promising

Are you speaking from experience? These gals are twice as expensive as my already too expensive source in Hong Kong for Shi Feng LJ.

Don't be stingy, good tea don't come cheap, TOff. At least you will be paying for the real thing from the long's peak.

You mean I should pay twice as much from these gals for the same 'real' lion's peak that I can buy in HK? Is that stingy or dumb? It's already at a premium in HK.
But, you didn't answer my question. Have you tried their Shi Feng LJ? There can be a big difference from one farm to the next, right? But, you are right, good tea don't come cheap.

Teadoff - No, I have not try their this year Shi Feng yet, since I usually get it from the Hangzhou Tea Institute. But If you are paying less then $0.7 per gram this year for pre-ming Shi Feng longjing, most likely it's fake or not from (Xi Hu) West Lake.

Here is the 2010 standard market chart price from Hong Kong:

Top grade starting:
Pre-Ming Lion's Peak Long Jing.
$190 per 38g
$5/g
(The Girls are selling that for $5.7/g. Which make sense for top grade)

Select grade starting:
Pre-Ming Lion's Peak Long Jing
$292 per 150g
$1.90/g

New Cultivar grade starting:
Pre-Ming Lion's Peak Long Jing
$202 per 150g
$1.35/g

So how much did you get yours at Tead?

http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 15#p152984

[teaskeptic]

RCT are legit. Expensive but very good. I haven't tried their Long Jing though.

[Tead Off]

Teadoff - No, I have not try their this year Shi Feng yet, since I usually get it from the Hangzhou Tea Institute. But If you are paying less then $0.7 per gram this year for pre-ming Shi Feng longjing, most likely it's fake or not from (Xi Hu) West Lake.

Here is the 2010 standard market chart price from Hong Kong:

Top grade starting:
Pre-Ming Lion's Peak Long Jing.
$190 per 38g
$5/g
(The Girls are selling that for $5.7/g. Which make sense for top grade)

Select grade starting:
Pre-Ming Lion's Peak Long Jing
$292 per 150g
$1.90/g

New Cultivar grade starting:
Pre-Ming Lion's Peak Long Jing
$202 per 150g
$1.35/g

So how much did you get yours at Tead?

Tim, I was definitely being stingy in HK as the Shi Feng LJ I tasted was HK$800(US$103)/75g. The reason I didn't buy it was because the tea didn't justify the price, IMO. By most accounts, the LJ this year is not up to par due to weather. It was good but didn't push me over. I settled for a lesser grade and I found some here in BKK (not lion's peak) that is very drinkable, but, also not great.

Does the tea you have justify the price this year?

[TIM]

Tim, I was definitely being stingy in HK as the Shi Feng LJ I tasted was HK$800(US$103)/75g. The reason I didn't buy it was because the tea didn't justify the price, IMO. By most accounts, the LJ this year is not up to par due to weather. It was good but didn't push me over. I settled for a lesser grade and I found some here in BKK (not lion's peak) that is very drinkable, but, also not great.

Does the tea you have justify the price this year?

No, most common grade 2010 tea dont justify to the price as a sum. But the higher grades do have a better standard, perhaps a 5-10% off a 90% mark, and certainly they are not for a everyday tea. At least for me.

[bagua7]

Which source would you recommend for a daily consumption of reasonable quality of long jing without ending up in bankruptcy.

Cheers.

[Chip]

Jing (China) or TeaSpring ... just start trying some from each. You have to start somewhere and believe me, you could do a lot worse.

Even the lowest level LJ from TS has been a good everyday sipper and much much better than anything I found domestically (though domestic vendors are much better today than 5-10 years ago when I had tried a lot of them).

Heh, like your Lion LJ avatar!

[entropyembrace]

What Jing is selling is from low altitude is why it´s not fetching the prices Tim is talking about, I trust Jing to give correct information on where they sourced it from.

Seems like the teas Tim are talking about are from the highest altitude plantations on Shi Feng mountain, Jing Tea Shop says theirs is from just below 200m above sea level...so the base of the mountain...it´s not much higher than Hangzhou which is at about 108m above sea level

[TIM]

What Jing is selling is from low altitude is why it´s not fetching the prices Tim is talking about, I trust Jing to give correct information on where they sourced it from.

Seems like the teas Tim are talking about are from the highest altitude plantations on Shi Feng mountain, Jing Tea Shop says theirs is from just below 200m above sea level...so the base of the mountain...it´s not much higher than Hangzhou which is at about 108m above sea level

If you don't mind me correcting you. Lion's Peak is a hill right next to West lake. They are all inside Hangzhou (a city). The highest altitude on Lion's Peak is around 1000 m. Most commercial grade are made from the 43 varital, which was develop only 20 yrs ago to satisfy the common demands. The grade I mentioned is from the number one protected area, old cultivar, hence the difference in grade and price range. There are more than 40 plus different cultivar and many grades in each of these. Hope this info helps hate to type on iphone

[entropyembrace]

What Jing is selling is from low altitude is why it´s not fetching the prices Tim is talking about, I trust Jing to give correct information on where they sourced it from.

Seems like the teas Tim are talking about are from the highest altitude plantations on Shi Feng mountain, Jing Tea Shop says theirs is from just below 200m above sea level...so the base of the mountain...it´s not much higher than Hangzhou which is at about 108m above sea level

If you don't mind me correcting you. Lion's Peak is a hill right next to West lake. They are all inside Hangzhou (a city). The highest altitude on Lion's Peak is around 1000 m. Most commercial grade are made from the 43 varital, which was develop only 20 yrs ago to satisfy the common demends. The grade I mentioned is from the number one protected area, old cultivar, hence the difference in grade and price range. There are more than 40 plus different cultivar and many grades in each of these. Hope this info helps hate type on iphone

thank you for the more detailed info, Tim

Jing Tea Shop has both 43 varital and the old cultivar on sale, but not the top grade or from near the top of the hill/mini-mountain xD

[Chip]

Wow, 40 varietals, thanks for the enlightenment, Tim. I had one varietal that was quite interesting, something like Bai Long Jing. The leaves are whitish as they are opening. Pretty cool LJ.

You could literally focus virtually 100% on LJ, just like you can on Wuyi or Dan Cong, etc. You could also go broke in the process.

There is nothing quite like spooning out a really good LJ and smelling the aroma and observing the beautiful leaf sets.

[entropyembrace]

Wow, 40 varietals, thanks for the enlightenment, Tim. I had one varietal that was quite interesting, something like Bai Long Jing. The leaves are whitish as they are opening. Pretty cool LJ.

You could literally focus virtually 100% on LJ, just like you can on Wuyi or Dan Cong, etc. You could also go broke in the process.

There is nothing quite like spooning out a really good LJ and smelling the aroma and observing the beautiful leaf sets.

I sure was impressed with the LJ samples Jing sent me last year...smooth and sweet and very aromatic Beautiful leaves that were a pleasure to watch in my glass pot too ^_^

Not top grade apparently but very good for normal tea drinking

someday I would like to try some samples of the teas Tim keeps talking about and share the experience with my girlfriend