Different temperatures lead to different colors

[finddream2020]

Is that for aged sheng?

I guess yes

[finddream2020]

If not fired under appropriate temperature, the pots surely will be imperfect. And we don't sell pots in that situation.

I am confused now

On your website the photos accompanying the teapot descriptions show a range of colours, so I thought you were selling qinshui ni fired at different temperatures.

Subdued Dark Brownhttp://www.zishateapot.co.uk/longdan-te ... -p-98.html

Chestnut Brown
http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/chinese-yi ... -p-90.html

Various shades of Reddish Brown
http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/piaogua-te ... p-100.html

http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/lixing-tea ... -p-97.html

http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/danqing-te ... -p-96.html

http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/chinese-yi ... -p-91.html

http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/chinese-yi ... -p-93.html

AND
a Sandy Yellowish
http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/guayu-teap ... -p-99.html

does the clay type listed refer to the item in stock, and the photo is just to demonstrate the teapot style?

I'm sorry I didn't notice that some clays mentioned are wrong our site, I will correct it soon. Thank you very much!
And it's true that the same clay may appear different colors, but its color won't be different that much, maybe light or dark a little.

[finddream2020]

Low-fired Benshan Luni or Duanni will cause accidental black dots (Tu Hei) or earn a crack, Low-fired DCQ will just absorb tea aroma without functioning too properly and Ji Yan dots (trait of DCQ) won't appear. But high-fired is acceptible, because of its sandy particle, it will still keep air holes open

Zhuni rather have a strict temperature, some 10 Celsius difference will shape the pot horribly..

I agree with you!

[finddream2020]

Thank you very much for your interest in this topic.

I was kind of hoping that Chen would one by one over the coming months introduce a seperate topic for each clay in turn.
helping me to decide, one by one, whether to build a collection of different clay types:- I already have a Shouzhen DuoQiu DCQ which I love

It's my pleasure and I will try to introduce clays one by one when I have time as you hoped.

II am contemplating purchasing a Qing Hui Ni / Qing Shui Ni ? and am trying to bottom out Qing Hui Ni. The photos from Chen suggested (I thought [thinking the grey was good and the other one not so good]) that the granular texture of the greyish pot would be a nice acquisition to my collection and might be suitable for aged sheng which I am just about to journey along.

Qinghuini and qingshuini are quite different, for qinghuini appears grey, but qingshuini is kind of red.
Most qinghuini pots need to be fired twice at least, and the right pot on the first pic I showed was fired just one time and it was a semi-finished product then.
Surely it would be nice for aged shengpu for qinghuini.

If there are colour variations on QHN pots above the appropriate temperature is there a scale of colour variations as higher and higher temperatures are reached?

Qinghuini often appears grey.
If fired higher and higher temperatures, there will be some problems for qinghuini clay, for example, it would get blisters or crack a little. All the clays cannot bear the higer tempretures above the appropriate temperature.

Despite not finding a greyish looking pot on the website which declared itself to be QHN. I did find one with undeclared clay that looks greyish and appears to have a decent granular texture.
http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/chinese-yi ... -p-64.html

Yes, this is made of qinghuini clay.

The next part would be ordering one, half-hand-made to cut the cost
1. choose an existing model (style and size)
2. choose the clay

But then do I need to add that I want it (if this instruction is permitted in the ordering process) fired so as to develop a greyish colour?

There is no need for you to add this, because it is common sense that qinghuini is greyish. Maybe the grey is not the same, dark or light is permitted.

[finddream2020]

I really appreciate your comment!

What if a pot is fired at 1300c and over? Most clays will burst or scorch even at 1200c..color won't be pretty and will be crystallized like a porcelain. Most potters fire their pots lower than required, not visa verce, because it will raise the possibility of failure.

As far as I know, qinghuini needs higher firing tempreture than other clays, such as qinghuini, zini and zhuni. I shouldn't forget to mention duanni, because it needs high tempreture, too.
It's true that if fired at higher tempreture than required, there will be problems at the pots.

There are many ways to make Qing Hui ni, that original clay is called Yuan Kuang Qing Hui ni. There are also ways to add Shi Huang or Muo Luni, sometimes potters intentionally mix Zini and Duanni..

Totally agreed!

[Herb_Master]

I'm sorry I didn't notice that some clays mentioned are wrong our site, I will correct it soon. Thank you very much!
And it's true that the same clay may appear different colors, but its color won't be different that much, maybe light or dark a little.

Not too much work for you - now that you have told me

Qinghuini and qingshuini are quite different, for qinghuini appears grey,
... .... Maybe the grey is not the same, dark or light is permitted.

These were all called Qing Shui Ni, but I thought QHN and QSN were the same because there is no reference to Qing Hui Ni on any pots in your site, nor in the special order section

except zhu ni includes (qingshui ni,dicao qing,zini,ziqie ni,duan ni,lv ni etc.)

zhuni includs(zhuni,zhu gan zi ni etc.)

Maybe just the sandy yellow one needs changing.

It would be nice to see on your site example pots of the clays that can be ordered, such as Lvni (Ben Shan??)

[finddream2020]

These were all called Qing Shui Ni, but I thought QHN and QSN were the same because there is no reference to Qing Hui Ni on any pots in your site, nor in the special order section

Qingshuini and qinghuini are quite different, qinghuini is greyish, but qingshuini is kind of red. Qinghuini's porosity is much more obvious than qingshuini. As for firing tempreture, qinghuini needs higer tempreture.

It would be nice to see on your site example pots of the clays that can be ordered, such as Lvni (Ben Shan??)

Thank you for your suggestion!
But benshan lvni and benshan duanni is the same clay, and green clay which we showed on our site are out of stock right now since natural green clay is quite rare these years.