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by fire_snake » Jan 23rd, '11, 11:57
iannon wrote:Which is why, unless you just must have a Japanese one, I mentioned our home grown Artisans. Amazing works!
Cory's work is especially good, I think.
http://www.etsy.com/listing/62918273/bl ... cha-chawan
It's pretty exquisite. I've never seen one done like that. He also did a Kuro chawan that caught my eye (shown somewhere else.) I assume he does commissioned work as well?
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by iannon » Jan 23rd, '11, 12:05
fire_snake wrote:iannon wrote:Which is why, unless you just must have a Japanese one, I mentioned our home grown Artisans. Amazing works!
Cory's work is especially good, I think.
http://www.etsy.com/listing/62918273/bl ... cha-chawan
It's pretty exquisite. I've never seen one done like that. He also did a Kuro chawan that caught my eye (shown somewhere else.) I assume he does commissioned work as well?
yeah and check out the ones in his sold items! will give you an idea of his range
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by iannon » Jan 23rd, '11, 12:08
iannon wrote:fire_snake wrote:iannon wrote:Which is why, unless you just must have a Japanese one, I mentioned our home grown Artisans. Amazing works!
Cory's work is especially good, I think.
http://www.etsy.com/listing/62918273/bl ... cha-chawan
It's pretty exquisite. I've never seen one done like that. He also did a Kuro chawan that caught my eye (shown somewhere else.) I assume he does commissioned work as well?
yeah and check out the ones in his sold items! will give you an idea of his range
And to top it all off..they are here to communicate with! and have participated and passed on much ceramic knowledge to the forums here.
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by JBaymore » Jan 23rd, '11, 18:45
rdl wrote:JBaymore wrote:But likely be ready for some "sticker shock".
and be ready for a "body shock" from the absolute beauty these pieces possess.
Absolutely true.
I have a ceramics student I have been working with for a few years (in the Continuing Education department of the college) who is also a collector of fine Japanese ceramics, and Robert is his/her "muse" in Japan. His/her collection would make most any museum proud. Includes most all of the Living National Treasures. Hundreds and hundreds of pieces.
The student is making a pretty decent tebineri chawan him/her-self these days too.
best,
.........john
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by fire_snake » Jan 23rd, '11, 19:20
I have a question.
http://www.vajragallery.com/ceramics/c0002.html
Here is the description:
Black Raku tea Bowl with Box
Thin tezukune body with shiny black glaze turning into kase.
With Raku seal and period shifuku
Edo Period, 18-19C, Japan
Another example, from a different piece - Taisho period (1912-1926), where almost all of the shine has worn off.
"Turning into kase" seems to mean that the shiny finish of the glaze has worn off somewhat due to age and wear-and-tear, turning into more of a matte finish. I will assume this is a sign of beauty and desirability from a Zen perspective, because as far as I know from Western culture, wear-and-tear usually decreases an item's value, regardless of its rarity.
So is a "kase" finish due to age something special - something that grants an item more wabi?
I've seen examples of modern Kase Raku (matte-finish raku) that are even more in demand than their shinier cousins.
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by Chip » Jan 23rd, '11, 21:20
Interesting discussion. Obviously when buying Chawan, the value and price needs to be set by the buyer since most of us do not have seemingly infinite resources when buying a single chawan ... but most of these uber priced ones are really ceremony chawan. If I spent more than I was comfortable spending on a chawan, it would sadly and likely sit on a shelf virtually unused.
Michael Coffee, aka ShyRabbit. Cut/carved Tenmoku glazed like a deep night sky filled with endless green stars. This chawan was around 80 USD, and I am quite at home using it, like all the ShyRabbit and CoryLum chawan on hand here, they are all used regularly. And they are all loved ...

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by fire_snake » Jan 23rd, '11, 21:57
Chip wrote:Interesting discussion. Obviously the value and price needs to be set by the buyer since most of us do not have seemingly infinite resources when buying a single chawan ... but most of these uber priced ones are really ceremony chawan. If I spent more than I was comfortable spending on a chawan, it would sadly and likely sit on a shelf virtually unused.
Michael Coffee, aka ShyRabbit. Cut/carved Tenmoku glazed like a deep night sky filled with endless green stars. This chawan was around 80 USD, and I am quite at home using it, like all the ShyRabbit and CoryLum chawan on hand here, they are all used regularly. And they are all loved ...

I don't see this one on ShyRabbit's site. Could you provide a link?
Oh, and I just noticed this:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/66580530/ce ... cha-chawan

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by Chip » Jan 23rd, '11, 22:07
Fire_Snake, this was on the site months ago ...

Now is on my home site.
He generally does not offer X number of each item, prefering to take the route of serendipity. However you can contact him under our TeawareArtisan forum and discuss the making of a Tenmoku for you.
Yeah, Cory Lum Celedon are quite nice too!

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by fire_snake » Jan 23rd, '11, 22:15
Chip wrote:Fire_Snake, this was on the site months ago ...

Now is on my home site.
He generally does not offer X number of each item, prefering to take the route of serendipity. However you can contact him under our TeawareArtisan forum and discuss the making of a Tenmoku for you.
Yeah, Cory Lum Celedon are quite nice too!

So I can commission him to make me something quite nice. Hmmm . . .
My name's Christan, by the way. I just chose "Fire Snake" for fun since thats my Chinese zodiac sign. Good to meet ya.
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by Chip » Jan 23rd, '11, 22:17
Some Cory Lum that reside here including the 2 celedon!

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by fire_snake » Jan 23rd, '11, 22:24
That red one is quite nice. One of the prized colours to set with Matcha.
Thats quite a display you have in the background. If you have time, I'd appreciate a photo of that so I can get some ideas. I might even ask you about some items in your collection, if you don't mind.
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by Chip » Jan 23rd, '11, 22:31
fire_snake wrote:That red one is quite nice. One of the prized colours to set with Matcha.
Thats quite a display you have in the background. If you have time, I'd appreciate a photo of that so I can get some ideas. I might even ask you about some items in your collection, if you don't mind.
Christan (is that spelled correctly?), nice to meet you as well!
The display in the background is all Hagi, more Ippuku-wan (mid sized cups), mostly through the Hagi SO program right here on TeaChat.

TeaChat is a bit of a Hagi Cult where we do drink the kool-aide (tea). I have wanted to take some photos of the displays ...

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by iannon » Jan 23rd, '11, 22:34
Chip wrote:fire_snake wrote:That red one is quite nice. One of the prized colours to set with Matcha.
Thats quite a display you have in the background. If you have time, I'd appreciate a photo of that so I can get some ideas. I might even ask you about some items in your collection, if you don't mind.
Christan (is that spelled correctly?), nice to meet you as well!
The display in the background is all Hagi, more Ippuku-wan (mid sized cups), mostly through the Hagi SO program right here on TeaChat.

TeaChat is a bit of a Hagi Cult where we do drink the kool-aide (tea). I have wanted to take some photos of the displays ...

Did someone say Hagi!?
anyway..Shyrabbit has a sweet looking Oribe style one..and a couple Chun Red's that looks slick too.
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by Chip » Jan 23rd, '11, 22:39
iannon wrote: Did someone say Hagi!?
anyway..Shyrabbit has a sweet looking Oribe style one..and a couple Chun Red's that looks slick too.
When don't we say Hagi!!!???
Yeah, just got some cups from ShyRabbit, and it was hard not throwing some of those Chawan in the basket.

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by fire_snake » Jan 23rd, '11, 22:40
Chip wrote:fire_snake wrote:That red one is quite nice. One of the prized colours to set with Matcha.
Thats quite a display you have in the background. If you have time, I'd appreciate a photo of that so I can get some ideas. I might even ask you about some items in your collection, if you don't mind.
Christan (is that spelled correctly?), nice to meet you as well!
The display in the background is all Hagi, more Ippuku-wan (mid sized cups), mostly through the Hagi SO program right here on TeaChat.

TeaChat is a bit of a Hagi Cult where we do drink the kool-aide (tea). I have wanted to take some photos of the displays ...

Yeah, I mistyped my name.
It's "Christian." So, standard spelling.
Right, I've seen talk of Hagi around here and have visited a thread about it. I noticed talk of a "Rock" as well. All news to me but very intriguing.
I'm looking forward to seeing some of this.