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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by TIM » Mar 22nd, '11, 10:55

fire_snake wrote:I'm speechless.
Tim:
Mind showing a few more pics of yours (lid on, etc?)
Thanks to all!
Christian
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Here is with lid on Christian. A Tokoname Mogake Shiboridashi. Cheers ~ T

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by David R. » Mar 22nd, '11, 10:56

You're very welcome. I will contact the shop to see if there is a way that they send me pictures of their remaining sets.

Yes I knew about Petr's custom work, but never actually asked him. I may soon though.

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by Chasm » Mar 22nd, '11, 18:58

Tim, that is just lovely.

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by Rayuela » Mar 22nd, '11, 19:54

I had my eye on one of those (mogake). I like the ergonomic flatness of them. Are they any good for brewing Chinese greens as well?

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by fire_snake » Mar 25th, '11, 09:55

A couple of things:

1) See here, available for purchase by the looks of it:

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/unzen04.htm

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/unzen03.htm

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/unzen02.htm

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/unzen01.htm

The entire gallery:

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/gallery.htm

2) Black Magda set is sold, unfortunately, and I wonder when a new one will be available. :(

http://www.dobrycaj.cz/Catalog.aspx?av=122&mi=31

Anyone know if this set is available elsewhere?

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by Chip » Mar 25th, '11, 10:00

fire_snake wrote: 2) Black Magda set is sold, unfortunately, and I wonder when a new one will be available. :(

http://www.dobrycaj.cz/Catalog.aspx?av=122&mi=31

Anyone know if this set is available elsewhere?
Ask Petr to make it for you! :mrgreen:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=12296

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by Xell » Mar 25th, '11, 10:10

One question about shiboridashi. If i understand right, usual size is about 70-80ml, right? It has quite big surface area, so it will cool down really fast, especially high quality teas need low temps. I guess preheating on first infusion is fine, but what happens on second etc?

I like the idea of using such teaware, where i can closely watch tea leaves expand and float in water, but somehow size feels too small.

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by fire_snake » Mar 25th, '11, 10:18

Chip wrote:
fire_snake wrote: 2) Black Magda set is sold, unfortunately, and I wonder when a new one will be available. :(

http://www.dobrycaj.cz/Catalog.aspx?av=122&mi=31

Anyone know if this set is available elsewhere?
Ask Petr to make it for you! :mrgreen:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=12296
Yep, already on it. :wink:

And maybe some other matching goodies, too. We'll see.

Christian

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by Chip » Mar 25th, '11, 10:19

fire_snake wrote:
Chip wrote:
fire_snake wrote: 2) Black Magda set is sold, unfortunately, and I wonder when a new one will be available. :(

http://www.dobrycaj.cz/Catalog.aspx?av=122&mi=31

Anyone know if this set is available elsewhere?
Ask Petr to make it for you! :mrgreen:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=12296
Yep, already on it. :wink:

And maybe some other matching goodies, too. We'll see.

Christian
... likewise! :mrgreen:

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by David R. » Mar 25th, '11, 10:38

I want one too ! We should make a SO out of it ! :)

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by Chip » Mar 25th, '11, 12:14

David R. wrote:I want one too ! We should make a SO out of it ! :)
Ask and so it shall be, SO coming. Well, it was already on the schedule. :mrgreen:

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by fire_snake » Mar 25th, '11, 13:02

Xell wrote:One question about shiboridashi. If i understand right, usual size is about 70-80ml, right? It has quite big surface area, so it will cool down really fast, especially high quality teas need low temps. I guess preheating on first infusion is fine, but what happens on second etc?

I like the idea of using such teaware, where i can closely watch tea leaves expand and float in water, but somehow size feels too small.
This is an excellent question.

Shiboridashi do exist and they have been used traditionally for Japanese tea. There must be a reason for that.

So what's the raison d'etre for a Shiboridashi, especially when we have Kyusus and Houhins? Why choose a Shiboridashi? What's the "big feature"?

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by Tead Off » Mar 25th, '11, 13:07

Xell wrote:One question about shiboridashi. If i understand right, usual size is about 70-80ml, right? It has quite big surface area, so it will cool down really fast, especially high quality teas need low temps. I guess preheating on first infusion is fine, but what happens on second etc?

I like the idea of using such teaware, where i can closely watch tea leaves expand and float in water, but somehow size feels too small.
If you are talking about japanese greens, shiboridashi are ideal, especially for gyokuro. I don't notice any problems with heat or size. I also never brew without the cover in order to watch the leaves.

Big feature for me is speed and aesthetics and sometimes size. Hobins are usually bigger, bulkier, thicker. Both Hobins and kyusu will take more time to clean. I liken shiboridashi to gaiwans.

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by karmaplace » Mar 25th, '11, 13:15

Chip wrote:
David R. wrote:I want one too ! We should make a SO out of it ! :)
Ask and so it shall be, SO coming. Well, it was already on the schedule. :mrgreen:

Oooh, a Petr SO?! I've been eyeing his wares for a long time, so this sounds very, very exciting. :mrgreen:

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Re: Learning to use a Shiboridashi

by Ambrose » Mar 25th, '11, 14:32

olivierco wrote:
Ambrose wrote: Here is my main love, over 80 yr old natural tokoname red clay. Rich in iron and minerals. I could not have greens any other way.
Did you get it from Katsuragi? They had a very similar one not so long ago.
in fact yes :mrgreen: at a steal too!
fire_snake wrote:I'm speechless.

I never thought there would be this much love for Shiboridashi. I can't wait to get a few pieces.

Ambrose:

She's really something! Truly beautiful.

Tim:

Mind showing a few more pics of yours (lid on, etc?)

Thanks to all!

Christian
Thank you it really is something amazing!

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