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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by Maxwell2079 » Apr 24th, '12, 11:47

Marshaln, indeed!
However, I don't buy that. And if it was the first, she should´ve at least warn me of the problem in advance and offered me a discount in case I accepted the pot the way it was.
Some vendors like Hojotea sell pots with flaws with a discount and clearly state the flaw in their site.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by MarshalN » Apr 24th, '12, 11:52

The price charged and the quality is not matching up. There's a reason I normally don't buy pots online unless there's a reason to do so.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by Maxwell2079 » Apr 24th, '12, 12:03

And you rightly so!

I guess I learn my lesson the hard way, I don´t think I will ever be buying an expensive pot online again. Just cheap ones.

I will pay for more expensive pots only when I travel to China.
I really appreciate all your help.

Wyardley, do you doubt of my word? Why would I misrepresent you this unfortunate story?

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by wyardley » Apr 24th, '12, 12:22

Maxwell2079 wrote: Wyardley, do you doubt of my word? Why would I misrepresent you this unfortunate story?
No, I'm not doubting your word. I'm saying that it seems like something is being misrepresented by the vendor, whether it's intentional or not.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by brandon » Apr 24th, '12, 12:25

The idea many of us seem to be getting here is that the pots you are received are not made by the experienced potter they are being attributed to.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by Maxwell2079 » Apr 24th, '12, 12:32

Oh I see, sorry, I misunderstood you.

You bet that the vendor took me for a fool.
I wonder how she will try to justify the whole thing here since there is no way around it. I have a bunch of mails from her one worst than the other.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by Maxwell2079 » Apr 24th, '12, 12:38

You bet Brandon!

That way then can increase production and charge all the pots as if they were made by the master. :(
This is so wrong...

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by Chip » Apr 24th, '12, 12:39

I can sense your frustration. For many reasons, I am moving this vendor from the TeawareArtisan active forum and placing it in the Archive forum ... just too many problems for too long.

Members will still be able to post there.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by Maxwell2079 » Apr 24th, '12, 12:46

Hello Chip, thank you for sympathizing!

Hopefully, this won´t happen again to other members.

Best wishes.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by wyardley » Apr 24th, '12, 16:59

paul haigh wrote: The clay left under the gallery was unacceptable and I won't even address it.
Personally, I don't mind that bit at all. A lot of older pots have this kind of rough construction inside. I heard a guy (at a presentation) recently make the claim that "any Yixing pot that isn't perfectly finished on the inside is 'garbage'". I think some roughness on the inside kind of adds to the charm, but maybe that's just me. At the least, I don't care too much about how the inside is finished, as long as it doesn't impair the pot's functionality.

Balance in shape / form, finish, and texture of the outside clay, etc., and even the pot's functionality, are all much more important to me.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by TIM » Apr 24th, '12, 17:29

wyardley wrote:
paul haigh wrote: The clay left under the gallery was unacceptable and I won't even address it.
Personally, I don't mind that bit at all. A lot of older pots have this kind of rough construction inside. I heard a guy (at a presentation) recently make the claim that "any Yixing pot that isn't perfectly finished on the inside is 'garbage'". I think some roughness on the inside kind of adds to the charm, but maybe that's just me. At the least, I don't care too much about how the inside is finished, as long as it doesn't impair the pot's functionality.

Balance in shape / form, finish, and texture of the outside clay, etc., and even the pot's functionality, are all much more important to me.
I am glad that you are not a collector of Culture Revolution Pots :lol:

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by paul haigh » Apr 24th, '12, 18:49

I suppose I'm not the best judge for yixing to be sure, but that seems a weird piece to leave in that spot on a thrown pot (or was this one with a molded body?)
Rough fining I'm fine with -weird pieces on spots that encounter food/drink- I'm cautious about (though I am definitely OK with crazing, which is a hangup for many modern potters)

edit: if this was a molded pot, then I suspect that clay was from the fettling job (excess clay is cut away after the molding)- again- character I'd be OK with, but personally I'd feel like it was a sloppy finishing job if it was the molded pot.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by wyardley » Apr 24th, '12, 19:23

paul haigh wrote: edit: if this was a molded pot, then I suspect that clay was from the fettling job (excess clay is cut away after the molding)- again- character I'd be OK with, but personally I'd feel like it was a sloppy finishing job if it was the molded pot.
In older pots, roughness in that area is not uncommon. I actually kind of like it for some reason.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by Maxwell2079 » Apr 24th, '12, 20:35

Paul, the pot it is suppose to be hand-made not made by a mold. It even has the same line between handle and body on the inside shown by betta in other post. Not that really matters anymore.

The clay of my dicaoqing is suppose to be from the 70's but now I laugh at that claim. I even have doubts that it is dicaoqing clay :lol: and the black one is suppose to be zi qie ni same year and mine #4.

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Re: As promised here are the picture of the pots

by bagua7 » Apr 24th, '12, 21:34

Personally, if I am not happy with my order I send it back to the vendor. I have no problems with packing well the order either, it is easily done and it won't break unless you drop it from an aircraft during flight, lol.

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