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by devilducklings » Feb 22nd, '14, 05:45

Muadeeb wrote:I've got a couple of those cheapo 50ml pots and they're perfect for making a small amount of tea late at night or using up the last couple grams of a bag.
Hi, I have been following teachat for a year now, this forum has taught me a lot about tea and teawares, thanks to all knowledgeable members here who generously share what they know.

I happened to buy those cheapo pots after reading some good reviews from this forum to satisfy my curiousity.
The pots were almost scrapped untill i found quite recently that they feed very well on cheap sea-dyke oolong/TGY/shuishien.
I never liked those sea dyke teas untill i brew them in those cheapo pots, brew much better than my gaiwan.

Oh another thing, the pot volume written on the web maynot be correct.
My 100ml turns out to be 80, the 80 is 60 and the 50 is 40.

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by Teaism » Feb 22nd, '14, 10:02

Factory 3,4 make zisha flower pots, vases etc etc instead of focusing on teapots.
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by kyarazen » Feb 22nd, '14, 10:20

devilducklings wrote: The pots were almost scrapped untill i found quite recently that they feed very well on cheap sea-dyke oolong/TGY/shuishien.
I never liked those sea dyke teas untill i brew them in those cheapo pots, brew much better than my gaiwan.
its because of the chemistry... :D
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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by Poseidon » Feb 25th, '14, 10:37

I got the pot in yesterday and I must say, its really not bad. Its not amazing quality but it will work fine for what I need it for.

Cons:
No filter
Not the highest quality
Somewhat loose cap

Pros:
Cheap!
Brews decently
mine has a good pour
Not painted

I would say if anyone is looking for a cheap pot to brew cheaper tea or you dont have the funds for a nice pot, try one of these. Time will tell how she holds up.
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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by puyuan » Feb 25th, '14, 15:01

Poseidon wrote:I got the pot in yesterday and I must say, its really not bad. Its not amazing quality but it will work fine for what I need it for.

Cons:
No filter
Not the highest quality
Somewhat loose cap

Pros:
Cheap!
Brews decently
mine has a good pour
Not painted

I would say if anyone is looking for a cheap pot to brew cheaper tea or you dont have the funds for a nice pot, try one of these. Time will tell how she holds up.
Do you mean the Adagio pot? Please be aware that the chances of it being "Yixing" in any meaningful sense is basically 0.

Edit: Sorry, I see now you probably mean the Ebay one

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by bagua7 » Feb 25th, '14, 15:04

Poseidon wrote:Cons:
Somewhat loose cap
I like pots with a bit of a loose cap. Old pots have all loose caps (correct me if I am wrong), I mean old as pots made in the factory-1, ROC, Qing dynasty, etc, periods.

I also purchased one of those and am very curious about what they are like. They look like a qing shui ni - zisha mix of some sort from the computer screen.

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by Poseidon » Feb 25th, '14, 15:44

puyuan wrote: Do you mean the Adagio pot? Please be aware that the chances of it being "Yixing" in any meaningful sense is basically 0.

Edit: Sorry, I see now you probably mean the Ebay one
Yeah, the ebay pot. I highly doubt its a true yixing either, but for 7-10 bucks shipped what can you expect for something 1/10th the price of a real yixing?
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Poseidon wrote:Cons:
Somewhat loose cap
I like pots with a bit of a loose cap. Old pots have all loose caps (correct me if I am wrong), I mean old as pots made in the factory-1, ROC, Qing dynasty, etc, periods.

I also purchased one of those and am very curious about what they are like. They look like a qing shui ni - zisha mix of some sort from the computer screen.
I dont really mind the loose cap that much but from what ive read it should fit well and be able to control the flow with the cap hole on the knob, which it doesnt do. It does get a nice "water seal" during gong fu brewing though. Either way, i like it and may purchase another for a friend! :mrgreen:
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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by bagua7 » Mar 5th, '14, 18:01

I started brewing middle-aged sheng with that pot today and it did a great job. Mine doesn't have a loose lid though. Anyway what a great pot for $7 bucks. It is not a pure Yixing pot, probably different clay...but IMO Yixing clay is so overrated. Too much hype which started with vendors' marketing techniques and later on collectors themselves who think that because they spent a lot of money on them it makes them the holy grail of brewing vessels. Far from the truth. The only Yixing clay I respect is zhuni (especially the highly sought old type) and to brew Taiwan high mountain teas, which are extremely fussy teas. The rest can be brewed in any vessel even in an empty coconut. :mrgreen:

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by rdl » Mar 5th, '14, 23:41

bagua7 wrote:The rest can be brewed in any vessel even in an empty coconut.
or kept warm in a coconut :wink: ... i've seen this all over vietnam, but had to find a photo on line:
http://ryandaphne.typepad.com/_/2011/01/tea-cozy.html

earlier TC posts about this teapot can be found here:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... ng#p239024

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by theredbaron » Mar 8th, '14, 00:36

bagua7 wrote:...but IMO Yixing clay is so overrated. Too much hype which started with vendors' marketing techniques and later on collectors themselves who think that because they spent a lot of money on them it makes them the holy grail of brewing vessels.

Sorry, strong disagreement, but the the Yixing "hype" started a few hundred years ago, and not just recently with the event of the internet and subsequent instant imagined expertise in everything.
While tea can be brewed in any vessel - good Yixing pots with pure clay *are* the holy grail for brewing semi-fermented and pu erh teas, have been used, cherished and loved in China and South East Asia for centuries.

Wherever you go in Chinese style tea cultures you will see people using Yixing pots. Not just rich people and collectors. I remember when in the eary 90's, for example, i went to Xiamen, before the entire city was remodeled, in front of every shop you saw people sitting on small chairs and drinking tea, using Yixing pots, and when walking by, you were inevitably invited to share a few cups.
At the same time, in the back alleys of Bangkok's Chinatown the scene was quite similar.
And on a different level - there is little more entrancing to be sitting in a tea circle, and a very special rare tea is brewed in a treasured Ming or early Qing pot.
There were times when good quality pots were very reasonable - not everyone needed to spend a fortune on a good pot (while of course there always were the pots that did cost a fortune).
I, for example, was lucky enough that i started drinking Chinese tea when you could still get good pots for not too much money.

It is not really fair to put down an entire culture, art and tradition based on very recent discovery by the west through the internet.

No - Yixing pots are definitely *not* over rated.

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by Tead Off » Mar 8th, '14, 01:00

I quite agree. Good Yixing pots are not overrated. But, they are probably overpriced in many cases. The Chinese love to rush out and buy what they are told are treasures. You see it with all the brands, wine, cars, watches, etc. It's a way to impress others. It makes it very difficult to buy a Qing teapot for a reasonable price these days. Or, a good bordeaux wine from a top house. This is not to say it is impossible to buy a good Yixing teapot. :D

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by the_economist » Mar 8th, '14, 01:30

Tead Off wrote:I quite agree. Good Yixing pots are not overrated. But, they are probably overpriced in many cases. The Chinese love to rush out and buy what they are told are treasures. You see it with all the brands, wine, cars, watches, etc. It's a way to impress others. It makes it very difficult to buy a Qing teapot for a reasonable price these days. Or, a good bordeaux wine from a top house. This is not to say it is impossible to buy a good Yixing teapot. :D
Wow Chinese people are really special in that regard eh? I suppose none of the other races ever get bitten by fads or lemming-type behavior. Conspicuous consumption must be a decidedly Chinese thing.

Let's see a few of your good yixing teapots.
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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by Tead Off » Mar 8th, '14, 02:19

the_economist wrote:Wow Chinese people are really special in that regard eh? I suppose none of the other races ever get bitten by fads or lemming-type behavior. Conspicuous consumption must be a decidedly Chinese thing.

Let's see a few of your good yixing teapots.
Don't take it personally. :D

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by the_economist » Mar 8th, '14, 02:39

Why would I? I'm not racist.

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Re: Beginner/Cheap Yixing teapot

by theredbaron » Mar 8th, '14, 04:22

Tead Off wrote:I quite agree. Good Yixing pots are not overrated. But, they are probably overpriced in many cases. The Chinese love to rush out and buy what they are told are treasures. You see it with all the brands, wine, cars, watches, etc. It's a way to impress others. It makes it very difficult to buy a Qing teapot for a reasonable price these days. Or, a good bordeaux wine from a top house. This is not to say it is impossible to buy a good Yixing teapot. :D

I think it's not just a fad, but market dynamics. I can't say if they are really overpriced, but older pots get very expensive. Lets also not forget that tea culture and art is at the core of Chinese culture, philosophy and way of life.

As now mainland China's population became increasingly affluent, they have the leisure to appreciate the nice things of life, and are able to afford them now. That of course expanded demand for a limited product - older Yixing pots. Salaries rise, and new pots become more expensive as well.
While initially mostly Taiwanese, HK'ese and South East Asian Chinese drove up the market price for older pots - since the late 90's affluence of mainland China's rising middle classes and rich dwarfed previous demand.

I may moan about the prices now, but i can't blame people for buying pots and this way driving up the price. ;)

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