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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by wyardley » Jun 8th, '15, 13:49

Welcome!

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by kyarazen » Jun 8th, '15, 14:22

Tead Off wrote:I see. It's a shame the book is only published in Chinese, but of course, the primary interest is with the Chinese people.

Now, many westerners become interested in tea and teaware, but we are very disadvantaged in not having access to written material or knowledgeable Chinese collectors who can share their knowledge in English.
i have plans to translate the whole book to english, but of course with more participants the project can be completed faster. not the first time i had attempted english translation of reference books.. :lol: 8)

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by Tead Off » Jun 8th, '15, 22:26

kyarazen wrote:
Tead Off wrote:I see. It's a shame the book is only published in Chinese, but of course, the primary interest is with the Chinese people.

Now, many westerners become interested in tea and teaware, but we are very disadvantaged in not having access to written material or knowledgeable Chinese collectors who can share their knowledge in English.
i have plans to translate the whole book to english, but of course with more participants the project can be completed faster. not the first time i had attempted english translation of reference books.. :lol: 8)
That, indeed, would be a welcome addition to the world of Yixing and a great start for the exploration of the subject beyond pot name and maker name. 'A Great Leap Forward', if I may use an old expression. :D

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by Tead Off » Jun 10th, '15, 02:56

Doctor Lu, would you like to try to identify the period of this kyusu styled factory pot?
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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by Tead Off » Jun 10th, '15, 02:57

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by kyarazen » Jun 10th, '15, 03:23

Tead Off wrote:Doctor Lu, would you like to try to identify the period of this kyusu styled factory pot?
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factory 1, mid to end 70s probably.

this one i know v well :D

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by Tead Off » Jun 10th, '15, 04:43

What is it that you see that identifies it from this period? And, were these made only during this period or throughout F1 history? If made in different periods, what would be the difference?

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by steanze » Jun 10th, '15, 20:14

Dr. Lu, thanks for joining teachat. We are very lucky to have an expert like you on the forum.

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by William » Jun 11th, '15, 04:54

Tead Off wrote:What is it that you see that identifies it from this period? And, were these made only during this period or throughout F1 history? If made in different periods, what would be the difference?
From what I know, this kind of teawares have been made between 70s and 80s or 90s, tipically for the Japanese market.
Have been used different clay/molds, so the identification is not that difficult. For example, the one you own and a houhin (tall version and smaller version) made with 70s hongni clay are the most common to be found in Japan.

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by Tead Off » Jun 11th, '15, 05:27

William wrote:
Tead Off wrote:What is it that you see that identifies it from this period? And, were these made only during this period or throughout F1 history? If made in different periods, what would be the difference?
From what I know, this kind of teawares have been made between 70s and 80s or 90s, tipically for the Japanese market.
Have been used different clay/molds, so the identification is not that difficult. For example, the one you own and a houhin (tall version and smaller version) made with 70s hongni clay are the most common to be found in Japan.
Mine is not hongni clay. You see, what I'm after is the difference between the various moulds used in different periods. When Kyarazen says it's a 70's pot, he sees something that is identifying it as from this period. What is it that he sees that distinguishes it from an 80's kyusu? It's not difficult if you know what the difference in the moulds are. I don't know that's why I'm asking the question. It would be a step forward in my education on F1 wares.

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by William » Jun 11th, '15, 08:53

Tead Off wrote:
William wrote:
Tead Off wrote:What is it that you see that identifies it from this period? And, were these made only during this period or throughout F1 history? If made in different periods, what would be the difference?
From what I know, this kind of teawares have been made between 70s and 80s or 90s, tipically for the Japanese market.
Have been used different clay/molds, so the identification is not that difficult. For example, the one you own and a houhin (tall version and smaller version) made with 70s hongni clay are the most common to be found in Japan.
Mine is not hongni clay. You see, what I'm after is the difference between the various moulds used in different periods. When Kyarazen says it's a 70's pot, he sees something that is identifying it as from this period. What is it that he sees that distinguishes it from an 80's kyusu? It's not difficult if you know what the difference in the moulds are. I don't know that's why I'm asking the question. It would be a step forward in my education on F1 wares.
Sorry, what I meant was that the one you own made with a brown Yi Xing clay and another version (houhin) made with red clay are the most common in Japan.

I am not sure, but the one you own should have been made only during the 70s, so or it is from that period or it is a copy.


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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by chrl42 » Jun 16th, '15, 01:41

Thanks and welcome to join this community :)

Come often and enlighten us with your knowledge and experience on Shui Ping teapot!

BTW, my favorite thing to do with Yancha & old Shui Ping combination! 这本书我还没购买,有机会很想购买,特别是那个赠送水平套餐! :D

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by chrl42 » Jun 16th, '15, 01:43

Tead Off wrote:Doctor Lu, would you like to try to identify the period of this kyusu styled factory pot?
Imitation +1, I could be wrong.. :P

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Re: Friend from Taiwan

by Tead Off » Jun 16th, '15, 04:06

chrl42 wrote:
Tead Off wrote:Doctor Lu, would you like to try to identify the period of this kyusu styled factory pot?
Imitation +1, I could be wrong.. :P
Could Kyarazen be right? :D

I think it is a good idea to say why you think it is an imitation so people can learn. On the other hand, if you are mistaken, uh-oh, your reputation sinks. :shock:

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