I guess, once you learn how to tell if a thing is old, it is transferrable knowledge (to a limit).williammimi70 wrote:
My main knowledge is with antique porcelain but as far as yixing is concerned I still can't tell one type of clay to another : zhuni , da hong pao etc and then of course most importantly fake yixing clay and mixed yixing clay
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I think you are right with" to a limit",the number of fake yixing teapots I have is quite embarrassingBok wrote:I guess, once you learn how to tell if a thing is old, it is transferrable knowledge (to a limit).williammimi70 wrote:
My main knowledge is with antique porcelain but as far as yixing is concerned I still can't tell one type of clay to another : zhuni , da hong pao etc and then of course most importantly fake yixing clay and mixed yixing clay
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I've been in the 'old' business for 40 years. The difficulty lies in the refinements of the 'fake' makers. They are constantly finding ways to keep you off balance so if you turn your back for a while, you will not stay abreast of the new wrinkles they introduce. It's a fun hobby to engage in, but when you are making your living at it, it can be a nightmare. No one wants to discover that what they have is not genuinely old. Plus, the rationalizations that get built up for why something is old don't always hold up. You can ask any museum curator about this.Bok wrote:I guess, once you learn how to tell if a thing is old, it is transferrable knowledge (to a limit).williammimi70 wrote:
My main knowledge is with antique porcelain but as far as yixing is concerned I still can't tell one type of clay to another : zhuni , da hong pao etc and then of course most importantly fake yixing clay and mixed yixing clay
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For sure… that is why I stay completely out of the old teapot business. Rather spend my money on better teaTead Off wrote: I've been in the 'old' business for 40 years. The difficulty lies in the refinements of the 'fake' makers. They are constantly finding ways to keep you off balance so if you turn your back for a while, you will not stay abreast of the new wrinkles they introduce. It's a fun hobby to engage in, but when you are making your living at it, it can be a nightmare. No one wants to discover that what they have is not genuinely old. Plus, the rationalizations that get built up for why something is old don't always hold up. You can ask any museum curator about this.
A chipped cup here and there for a reasonable price is the most I venture into. Western old stuff I have enough from my ancestors
For me I also only get an old thing if I intend to use it. I have no scruples to use 100 year old ceramics, no point to let them collect dust on a shelf.
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I am lucky in a sense because I collect as a hobby, I am what you may call a pathological hoarder I guessTead Off wrote:I've been in the 'old' business for 40 years. The difficulty lies in the refinements of the 'fake' makers. They are constantly finding ways to keep you off balance so if you turn your back for a while, you will not stay abreast of the new wrinkles they introduce. It's a fun hobby to engage in, but when you are making your living at it, it can be a nightmare. No one wants to discover that what they have is not genuinely old. Plus, the rationalizations that get built up for why something is old don't always hold up. You can ask any museum curator about this.Bok wrote:I guess, once you learn how to tell if a thing is old, it is transferrable knowledge (to a limit).williammimi70 wrote:
My main knowledge is with antique porcelain but as far as yixing is concerned I still can't tell one type of clay to another : zhuni , da hong pao etc and then of course most importantly fake yixing clay and mixed yixing clay
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Very good attitudeBok wrote:For sure… that is why I stay completely out of the old teapot business. Rather spend my money on better teaTead Off wrote: I've been in the 'old' business for 40 years. The difficulty lies in the refinements of the 'fake' makers. They are constantly finding ways to keep you off balance so if you turn your back for a while, you will not stay abreast of the new wrinkles they introduce. It's a fun hobby to engage in, but when you are making your living at it, it can be a nightmare. No one wants to discover that what they have is not genuinely old. Plus, the rationalizations that get built up for why something is old don't always hold up. You can ask any museum curator about this.
A chipped cup here and there for a reasonable price is the most I venture into. Western old stuff I have enough from my ancestors
For me I also only get an old thing if I intend to use it. I have no scruples to use 100 year old ceramics, no point to let them collect dust on a shelf.
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Wow this one has awesome sculptural presence. The spout is so strong.williammimi70 wrote: I like this one very much
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I am glad you like itvictoria3 wrote:Wow this one has awesome sculptural presence. The spout is so strong.williammimi70 wrote: I like this one very much
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I think this one is old
Hand made not very beautiful but old,could it be Republic period or is it CR?
What do you think?
Hand made not very beautiful but old,could it be Republic period or is it CR?
What do you think?
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Qiao-ying seal Zhu Gu (bamboo drum) teapot..size probably about 500cc (it's not hand-made!)williammimi70 wrote: I think this one is old
Hand made not very beautiful but old,could it be Republic period or is it CR?
What do you think?
they'd made this kind of teapot from CR up to early-80s
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Thank you Chrl42. Your advice is much appreciatedchrl42 wrote:Qiao-ying seal Zhu Gu (bamboo drum) teapot..size probably about 500cc (it's not hand-made!)williammimi70 wrote: I think this one is old
Hand made not very beautiful but old,could it be Republic period or is it CR?
What do you think?
they'd made this kind of teapot from CR up to early-80s
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Dear Chri42chrl42 wrote: First teapot is lovely, could be late-Qing/ROC (if lucky)..a rare one.
Last one is quite special, only reduction firing could get that color I think...
Here are the close up shots of first pot,what do you think?
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Another teapot
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When i see all those amazing teapots you keep posting, a part of me feels sad that they are not being used for making great tea, as if their potential is not being fulfilled, but then i realize that this is how they get preserved for the future, which is equally awesome. Thanks for sharing.
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Thank you very much for your kind words.m. wrote: When i see all those amazing teapots you keep posting, a part of me feels sad that they are not being used for making great tea, as if their potential is not being fulfilled, but then i realize that this is how they get preserved for the future, which is equally awesome. Thanks for sharing.