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Tea + good food + exercise . . . no magic -- no surprises there. Thanks for the review. 3 stars/4starsforkyfork wrote: He constantly stresses in this book that this diet is a COMBINATION of tea + good eating + exercise. Tea is not a miracle magic weight loss drink. But it does help.
I'm contemplating on whether or not I should write a review about it on Amazon. It's not a bad book. I would probably give it 3 stars.
Any book you learn something new and take it with you is worthwhile.
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It's like that "HOME CURES THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT" books.
I checked out a book like that when i was at a bookstore not too long ago and check the list of things you should do and vendors to get them. if anyone did even HALF of those things you would go broke so fast your head would spin.
Granted, I haven't read this ultimate tea diet, but I'm calling shenanigans on this one.
What happened to a decent diet and exercise and treats in moderation?
*needs to take own advice*
The Tea Sipping Swordsman,
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I checked out a book like that when i was at a bookstore not too long ago and check the list of things you should do and vendors to get them. if anyone did even HALF of those things you would go broke so fast your head would spin.
Granted, I haven't read this ultimate tea diet, but I'm calling shenanigans on this one.
What happened to a decent diet and exercise and treats in moderation?
*needs to take own advice*
The Tea Sipping Swordsman,
Fencerdenoctum
Okay, Chatters...I'm going to be the sacrificial lamb on this one. I will read this book cover to cover and write a review.
However, even though I've decided to waste aforementioned precious minutes of my existence, I'll be damned if I waste my cash, so you'll have to wait until it becomes available at my library (3 copies...all out!).
However, even though I've decided to waste aforementioned precious minutes of my existence, I'll be damned if I waste my cash, so you'll have to wait until it becomes available at my library (3 copies...all out!).
As I have said earlier, I have read the book cover to cover and it is not a bad book.
I don't think anyone who frequents these forums will benefit from it (since we all pretty much know the "basics" of tea), but it is a nice book to get someone interested in tea. If it gets people excited and buying in tea .. horray. I just don't want people ordering a chai latte from Starbuck's or drinking Snapple everyday and saying, "well.. I'm drinking tea." .. That's just sugar, water, and trace amounts of tea - people
I - too - was skeptical, but I decided to read it anyway.. if just for a good laugh. I've read loads of awful diet books, and this is not one of them. Keep in mind that diet books are all the rage this time of the year. The title of "The Ultimate Tea Diet" will sell a lot better than the title, "Drink tea, combined with exercise and eating right".
Just don't put the book down immediately if you're not going to even bother giving it a look over. Just sayin'.
I don't think anyone who frequents these forums will benefit from it (since we all pretty much know the "basics" of tea), but it is a nice book to get someone interested in tea. If it gets people excited and buying in tea .. horray. I just don't want people ordering a chai latte from Starbuck's or drinking Snapple everyday and saying, "well.. I'm drinking tea." .. That's just sugar, water, and trace amounts of tea - people
I - too - was skeptical, but I decided to read it anyway.. if just for a good laugh. I've read loads of awful diet books, and this is not one of them. Keep in mind that diet books are all the rage this time of the year. The title of "The Ultimate Tea Diet" will sell a lot better than the title, "Drink tea, combined with exercise and eating right".
Just don't put the book down immediately if you're not going to even bother giving it a look over. Just sayin'.
Some may say "whatever it takes to get people to be healthy and drink tea". I don't believe the means justify the end. Tea tastes good. Eating a healthy diet is good. Hoping people get hooked on tea as a side effect of buying into the weight loss claims is not the best route. It's just flavored caffeine water that can count as one of your vegetable servings for the day if you drink enough. Nobody out there is selling The Ultimate Green Bean Diet because people know a side of green beans every day isn't going to fix them. People think tea is going to suck the fat out of them if they keep drinking it.
Let's drink the stuff because it tastes good and call it a day.
Let's drink the stuff because it tastes good and call it a day.
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I agree, EO. If they get into it as part of a health fad, then they're likely to drop it as a fad. I'm also willing to bet that they're not getting anything good, and only drinking the stuff they get because they think it's going to do miracles. I would just hate to see people get turned off from tea completely because it didn't live up to some hype.
I am all for promoting the benefits of tea, don't get me wrong. Tea has done quite a bit for my own health. The benefits have also helped me to open some other people up to the idea of tea, but if it's going to stick then the benefits really need to take a back seat.
There is also a lot of good and solid info on the benefits of tea out there that can be found, for those that are interested. Though I'd like to see more real science on the subject, there is a fair amount already. This is one that I've had my eye on, which is put out by the folks at the International Society of Tea Science, and apparently makes a point of challenging misconceptions (and now a WHOLE lot cheaper, now that I can't afford it
).
I am all for promoting the benefits of tea, don't get me wrong. Tea has done quite a bit for my own health. The benefits have also helped me to open some other people up to the idea of tea, but if it's going to stick then the benefits really need to take a back seat.
There is also a lot of good and solid info on the benefits of tea out there that can be found, for those that are interested. Though I'd like to see more real science on the subject, there is a fair amount already. This is one that I've had my eye on, which is put out by the folks at the International Society of Tea Science, and apparently makes a point of challenging misconceptions (and now a WHOLE lot cheaper, now that I can't afford it
).I guess the whole "tea as health" thing is just, well, rather silly to me. (Mind you I'm the most fatalistic person you will ever meet...) As any decent doctor or statistician will tell you, it doesn't matter one bit what the odds are, it only matter what your odds are. The odds may be that only five people out of 100 die of a certain type of cancer - but if you are one of those five. . .
I just find it amusing that people talk about "lowering their risk of cancer" through tea (or anything else) as if it is some sort of magic bullet. If your inherent risk is low - it will probably remain so, if it is high - it will also remain so. I have drunk tea to the exclusion of sodas, etc. since I was a small child and had cancer twice before the age of 22. Tea's fault? No, just bad luck/genetics/voodoo/etc.
There is no magic bullet people. And teaching people that this, that or the other thing is said bullet just pisses me off. There is no one cause for anything and no one cure. Life is a heck of a lot more complicated then that.
(Edited twice because it turns out I can't type.)
I just find it amusing that people talk about "lowering their risk of cancer" through tea (or anything else) as if it is some sort of magic bullet. If your inherent risk is low - it will probably remain so, if it is high - it will also remain so. I have drunk tea to the exclusion of sodas, etc. since I was a small child and had cancer twice before the age of 22. Tea's fault? No, just bad luck/genetics/voodoo/etc.
There is no magic bullet people. And teaching people that this, that or the other thing is said bullet just pisses me off. There is no one cause for anything and no one cure. Life is a heck of a lot more complicated then that.
(Edited twice because it turns out I can't type.)
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Thank you to those trying to give "The Ultimate Tea Diet" a sincere review. To the rest of you - please don't diss something just because you don't need it! I'm a customer of Adagio as a result of reading this book!
I bought it because I was trying to lose weight, I like tea, and I figured it wouldn't be too difficult to drink more tea if it was going to be good for me. What resulted is that I learned much more than I expected and I'm now fascinated with the world of tea. I haven't bought a single product from the author's website and never felt pressured to do so in order to succeed on his plan. Instead, I've visited several fine teashops in my area (I'm lucky, there are 4 on the TeaMap within a 30 minute drive of my home), have attended several tea-tasting classes, and I have a kitchen counter full of Adagio samples waiting their turn for tasting.
It's a great introduction for a newbie.
I bought it because I was trying to lose weight, I like tea, and I figured it wouldn't be too difficult to drink more tea if it was going to be good for me. What resulted is that I learned much more than I expected and I'm now fascinated with the world of tea. I haven't bought a single product from the author's website and never felt pressured to do so in order to succeed on his plan. Instead, I've visited several fine teashops in my area (I'm lucky, there are 4 on the TeaMap within a 30 minute drive of my home), have attended several tea-tasting classes, and I have a kitchen counter full of Adagio samples waiting their turn for tasting.
It's a great introduction for a newbie.