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by joelbct » May 17th, '08, 23:29

MarshalN wrote:Chashakus, I swear, are the single most expensive thing in the whole matcha setup.
Well, if you consider that a daily matcha drinker probably goes through a few chasen each year, multiply that by a lifetime, and they don't seem that cheap anymore! I am actually looking for a new one myself. Seems like minimum $20 for a nice Japanese whisk, and they go right up into the hundreds too.

I've seen nice-looking chashaku for $5-20.

I don't know, I've come to see that if one were so inclined, there is hardly a limit to what one could spend on tea ceremony items, there are so many wealthy collectors and practicioners out there that the prices just go into the stratosphere.

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by MarshalN » May 17th, '08, 23:36

You should just buy a lot of 25 from one of those Japanese dealers.... I think that's how big a box they come in. Probably cheaper for you that way :)

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by Buzz Fledderjohn » May 18th, '08, 01:46

Now I heard, from a member of Urasenke, that Japanese people who make their own chashaku do not use them. In tea ceremony the utensils are admired by the guests. Therefore it is bad manners (for lack of a better word...it's late :) ) to use your own chashaku and have people admire it in front of you. If they do make their own chashaku, they usually give them away as gifts.

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by GalileosDaughter » May 18th, '08, 10:31

witches brew wrote:I've seen some discussion on mint tea, but not on Moroccan teaware. Although it isn't a tea-producing country, it is a tea-drinking country. Sweet spearmint and gunpowder tea, served in glasses like these from the Marrakech bazaar.

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What a gorgeous tea set!!

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by chamekke » May 18th, '08, 11:36

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:Now I heard, from a member of Urasenke, that Japanese people who make their own chashaku do not use them. In tea ceremony the utensils are admired by the guests. Therefore it is bad manners (for lack of a better word...it's late :) ) to use your own chashaku and have people admire it in front of you. If they do make their own chashaku, they usually give them away as gifts.
Ooh, that makes sense. The seniormost student in our tea group did carve a chashaku with a slightly pointed tip, like a flower petal. It's really pretty. It's called tokingata in Japanese, or 兜巾形 in kanji (apparently tokin may refer to a pointed hat of some type?). She gave it as a gift to Sensei, who then "gave" it to our tea group. It's used by our tea group sometimes, but never when the student who made the chashaku is acting as host.

Here's a webpage on chashaku carving for Joel that I just discovered - w00t!:
http://www.takehei.jp/workshop/workframee.html

And an interesting page on chashaku in general:
http://page.freett.com/roman/chashaku20.html

The world of chashaku is a huge blank area for me. I don't think I've ever received any instruction on it. Anything else you guys want to share would be fantastic!

P.S. Just checked the Chado Wiki webpage on chashaku, and it says this:
If a second chashaku is used [for the usucha that is served following the koicha], it must be a bit "less" than the one used for koicha, either in age, or Oiemoto generation. It may be non-bamboo (lacquer, wood, other material); it may even be made by the Host.
So maybe it's OK under very limited circumstances?

P.P.S. Apologies for going way off-topic with this!

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by Ladytiger » May 18th, '08, 12:54

I finally get to show off my new baby!
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A friend picked it up for me when she was visiting Jordan.

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by joelbct » May 18th, '08, 13:12

MarshalN wrote:You can buy these bamboo, btw

http://www.bluestone.co.jp/meiboku/bamb ... sudake.htm

I think the dimensions are mm -- so 20cm long and whatever diameter you want, and the price in yen next to it (6405, 6720, etc). Not cheap for a bamboo stick.
Marshall, here are bamboo sticks from that same page in the $2-$15 range! I wonder if any of them are appropriate for carving chashaku?

kurotiku
sarashidake
metake

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I bet the Urasenke people will know where to source this sort of thing too...

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by Cinnamon Kitty » May 18th, '08, 14:09

Here are some better pictures of my new tea cup with some Fukamushi Sencha Supreme.

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by Victoria » May 18th, '08, 14:37

Awwww!! Very sweet LadyTiger! Congrats!

Nice pics CK!

Thanks for posting!

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by joelbct » May 18th, '08, 15:08

Cinnamon Kitty wrote:Here are some better pictures of my new tea cup with some Fukamushi Sencha Supreme.
Nice cup!

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by Salsero » May 18th, '08, 16:07

Cinnamon Kitty wrote:Here are some better pictures of my new tea cup with some Fukamushi Sencha Supreme.
No better diet for a new cup than Shincha!?
The cup is lovely, but what are the flowers? Lilacs? Even the one with white-edged petals?
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by PolyhymnianMuse » May 18th, '08, 21:22

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I found this treasure hunting since it was pretty much a rainy sunday all day long today. I'm not sure what its made out of exactly, the bottom says Anchor Hocking, Fos-King, oven proof, and made in usa. I used my measuring cup to figure out what size it was and it holds ~6 oz of water. Of course after I give it a hardcore cleaning, I'm going to be using it for a tea cup :)

P.s. Sorry for the poor quality of my camera, I would have taken a pic of the bottom but it would be impossible to make out anyway.

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by tenuki » May 18th, '08, 21:51

Very cool Polyhymn. Anchor Hocking is an old american glasswares company. I knew about them because my mom collected red glassware (Royal Ruby). Here are a couple of links if your interested...

Anchor Hocking Museum page of Royal Ruby


Anchor Hocking website
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by Salsero » May 18th, '08, 22:36

PolyhymnianMuse wrote:I found this treasure hunting ...
How cool, a new teacup and a mystery all wrapped up in one object.

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