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by PolyhymnianMuse » Nov 4th, '08, 14:28

I'm finding a few pots that I really would like to use for sheng but it seems everything that catches my eye is one large spout, no holes and screen to hold back the leaf... I suppose I could just use a strainer.

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by PolyhymnianMuse » Nov 4th, '08, 15:51

I really like this type of style...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dragon-Ball-Yixing- ... m153.l1262

...but the price tag is a bit much for me right now. Also I'm not sure if even that one has a ball filter inside :?

This one is more within my price range and I really dig the style but i just wonder how hot the top would get while pouring and not burning my thumb while holding it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Five-Happiness-Sesa ... m153.l1262

I'm just thinking here and not exactly sure I'm clear... when it says spout intake is flat does that just mean instead of the golf ball shape around the inside with the holes its just flat against the inside? What I'm getting at is if it says its flat, theres still little holes inside there right?

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by cupioneer » Nov 4th, '08, 17:05

PolyhymnianMuse wrote:I really like this type of style...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dragon-Ball-Yixing- ... m153.l1262

...but the price tag is a bit much for me right now. Also I'm not sure if even that one has a ball filter inside :?

This one is more within my price range and I really dig the style but i just wonder how hot the top would get while pouring and not burning my thumb while holding it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Five-Happiness-Sesa ... m153.l1262

I'm just thinking here and not exactly sure I'm clear... when it says spout intake is flat does that just mean instead of the golf ball shape around the inside with the holes its just flat against the inside? What I'm getting at is if it says its flat, theres still little holes inside there right?
I actually just received the Xi Shi version of the Dragon Ball from DTH you posted about. It's made by the same people, so I'd assume it has similar characteristics. My observations thus far are very positive. It's very well made and relatively thick. It has a seven-hole flat filter. (No golf ball shaped filter!)

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by PolyhymnianMuse » Nov 4th, '08, 17:18

From where did you purchase it?

Can someone also clear that up for me about the spouts? I'm torn between these two pots and I'm wondering since they say flat spout does it just mean a bunch of holes along the wall?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Five-Happiness-Sesa ... m153.l1262 (Like I mentioned above the only thing I might have an issue with is since there is no nob or anything on the lid it getting very hot to hold my thumb on)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Multi-Color-Duan-Ni ... m153.l1262 (This one I really like, no issues I can see except for maybe only being 130 ml.)

What do you guys think?

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by cupioneer » Nov 4th, '08, 18:53

PolyhymnianMuse wrote:From where did you purchase it?

Can someone also clear that up for me about the spouts? I'm torn between these two pots and I'm wondering since they say flat spout does it just mean a bunch of holes along the wall?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Five-Happiness-Sesa ... m153.l1262 (Like I mentioned above the only thing I might have an issue with is since there is no nob or anything on the lid it getting very hot to hold my thumb on)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Multi-Color-Duan-Ni ... m153.l1262 (This one I really like, no issues I can see except for maybe only being 130 ml.)

What do you guys think?
I got the Xi Shi from Dragon Tea House. As for the others, I would assume "flat" in that context to mean it's got filter holes, just not a golf ball. But I don't know for sure. You could just email YSLLC and ask them directly.

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by t4texas » Nov 4th, '08, 20:43

Unless you are planning on brewing sheng western style only for more than one person, the 130 ml should be fine.

Scott at YSLLC is very accessible. Just email him, or any vendor for that matter, about specific questions you have about specific pots. But I have never seen a tea pot dealer refer to a flat filter as any thing but a flat piece of clay with holes inside the pot at the exit into the spout. But , if in doubt about anything...ask them.

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by PolyhymnianMuse » Nov 5th, '08, 02:16

t4texas wrote:Unless you are planning on brewing sheng western style only for more than one person, the 130 ml should be fine.

Scott at YSLLC is very accessible. Just email him, or any vendor for that matter, about specific questions you have about specific pots. But I have never seen a tea pot dealer refer to a flat filter as any thing but a flat piece of clay with holes inside the pot at the exit into the spout. But , if in doubt about anything...ask them.
I ended up purchasing this one tonight, along with a few samples of a few raw cakes that caught my eye. I got AIR so I hope it comes quick :)

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by gingkoseto » Nov 5th, '08, 07:43

PolyhymnianMuse wrote:From where did you purchase it?

Can someone also clear that up for me about the spouts? I'm torn between these two pots and I'm wondering since they say flat spout does it just mean a bunch of holes along the wall?
Among the pots I have seen, Chinese pots almost all the time have holes along the wall (but they work as well as golf ball filter), including most Chinese-made "kyusus" exported to Japan. Japanese pots most of the time have "gulf ball" (including some Japanese-made yixing style), but sometimes have the holes along the wall filter.
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by t4texas » Nov 5th, '08, 09:51

eanglin wrote:
t4texas wrote:I don't have a wide mouth pot, but one thing you can do with any pot that dribbles excessively (or floods) when you pour aggressively is to not fill it to the rim with water. You have to experiment a bit to find the water level that works best. Of course a pot with very good craftsmanship that has a lid with little to no play in it should make spillage a non-issue.

Its a little gongfu pot. For a larger pot, brewing European style, your suggestion would work well, but for little pots not so much. If you don't fill gongfu pots all the way you can't skim off the dust and scum that rises to the pot, you lose heat and you sacrifice the water seal.
I understand what you are saying, but my suggestion was in the context of what I understood to be a less than perfect situation. It sounds like you are not getting a good water seal anyway, so what's to lose? You may get a little dust, but can you take care of that with a rinse or two? And how much heat do we really lose when dealing with short steeps? You could also try pouring less aggressively, but sooner. Few pots are perfect in all important points, at least mine are not. So for me it's a matter of adapting.

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by cheaton » Nov 5th, '08, 16:18

Rishi teas sells some Dragon Egg style Yixing pots ontheir site, considerable cheaper than the one linked.

http://www.rishi-tea.com/store/yixing-d ... uanni.html

I don't think rishi's volume to dimension sizing is accurate, but I could be wrong. It seems to me that size pot would hold much more than 4oz. It's so hard to judge the size without holding it in your hand.

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