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by wyardley » Feb 3rd, '09, 22:13

MarshalN wrote:I use a waring these days.... conventional, non induction, which I prefer. Induction is always a little funny for me.
Do you notice a difference in the time it takes to boil water with the Waring vs. an induction plate?

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by beachape » Feb 3rd, '09, 23:38

Wardley,

Sorry but I have some more. Do you have the 1000watt model kj-10h? I saw online that they have lower wattage models, and Dragon Tea House has the 800watt for about $50 so I thought maybe that was the one you had. You mentioned that it isn't very powerful; how long does it take to boil the water? The reason I'm wondering, is that I'm not going to use the base for any other cooking, so I don't want to get something that will take up too much space, but at the same time I don't want to wait all day for the water to boil.

Thanks.

Does any one else have the kj-10h? (I think I will start a new post for this)

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by wyardley » Feb 4th, '09, 01:31

beachape wrote: Sorry but I have some more. Do you have the 1000watt model kj-10h? I saw online that they have lower wattage models, and Dragon Tea House has the 800watt for about $50 so I thought maybe that was the one you had. You mentioned that it isn't very powerful; how long does it take to boil the water? The reason I'm wondering, is that I'm not going to use the base for any other cooking, so I don't want to get something that will take up too much space, but at the same time I don't want to wait all day for the water to boil.
Edit... checked my closet. The one I had was the 10h, listed at 1000W. It doesn't take that long to boil water with the included kettle (couple minutes, maybe?), but the included kettle is a lot smaller and lighter weight than a lot of other kettles.

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by beachape » Feb 4th, '09, 13:03

Thanks a lot. Originally my motive for switching to a non-plastic kettle was for health concerns (I know that the data is inconclusive, but I'd rather be safe than sorry). In that line, I've decided it would be best to avoid induction as well in the same attempt to find a healthy (again, data inconclusive, but not negligible) and practical water heating solution.

A hotplate and simple kettle would work fine, but I'd use it so much that I'd worry about fire hazard (I'd like to use it outside of the kitchen) and also wasted energy. It seems the most logical solution would be an electric kettle that is made of metal or glass. Unfortunately almost all that I have seen have some plastic (plastic seals, spouts, gauges, filters etc) that contacts the water. The search continues...

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by woozl » Feb 4th, '09, 14:27

The breville plastic filter is removable.Although , there is still a small window :?
I swear I saw pyrex electric kettle somewhere....but Ican't find it again
“Take some more tea,” the March Hare said to Alice, very earnestly.
“I’ve had nothing yet,” Alice replied in an offended tone: “so I ca’n’t take more.”
“You mean you ca’n’t take less,” said the Hatter: “it’s very easy to take more than nothing.”

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by MarshalN » Feb 4th, '09, 14:48

I don't use it at full power, so I don't know.

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by teakid » Feb 8th, '09, 01:32

beachape wrote:Thanks a lot. Originally my motive for switching to a non-plastic kettle was for health concerns (I know that the data is inconclusive, but I'd rather be safe than sorry). In that line, I've decided it would be best to avoid induction as well in the same attempt to find a healthy (again, data inconclusive, but not negligible) and practical water heating solution.

A hotplate and simple kettle would work fine, but I'd use it so much that I'd worry about fire hazard (I'd like to use it outside of the kitchen) and also wasted energy. It seems the most logical solution would be an electric kettle that is made of metal or glass. Unfortunately almost all that I have seen have some plastic (plastic seals, spouts, gauges, filters etc) that contacts the water. The search continues...

I found two that are ALL glass and no contact with plastic:

http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-59-Ounce-St ... pd_sbs_k_2

http://www.amazon.com/Medelco-Glass-Sto ... gy_k_img_b

I got the cheaper Medelco (can be used on stovetop, hotplate or radiant cooktop). It comes with a metal heat diffuser (a piece of cheap wire that tends to rust inside the pot) which I threw out and replaced with mineral stones. Good luck!!!

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This might be what you're looking for...

by Intuit » Feb 8th, '09, 22:42

I was looking for one as well. I like the design and simplicity of this one, for the same cost as an electrical hot plate. The glass kettle lifts off of the heating base..

http://www.amazon.com/Capresso-259-03-K ... 29-7550706

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Re: This might be what you're looking for...

by wyardley » Feb 8th, '09, 23:12

Intuit wrote:I was looking for one as well. I like the design and simplicity of this one, for the same cost as an electrical hot plate. The glass kettle lifts off of the heating base..

http://www.amazon.com/Capresso-259-03-K ... 29-7550706
The Capresso doesn't look quite as nice in person, and the thing inside (the chrome looking thing at the bottom of the inside) is made of plastic. I've never owned one, but you can smell the plastic in an unused one.

It does heat water very quickly, though.

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by Intuit » Feb 8th, '09, 23:21

Yeah, I retract the suggestion for the Capresso. Didn't realize it had taste issues (mentioned in the Amazon.com product reviews).

Oh well... back to the drawing board. Still not sure why a glass kettle is any way, shape or form better than a standard enamel coated stainless steel kettle.

For many years, I have used a petite tea-pot shaped Chantal kettle called 'Serv-a-Tea", sold in the 1980s and early '90s. It was intended to be used with a removable metal infuser, but I never liked it because the basket didn't work well - it had solid metal sides and a perforated base. I just use it for boiling water on the stove. Works like a charm and has never suffered from corrosion or mineral deposit problems.

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by Oni » Feb 9th, '09, 02:15

I am tempted to try Lin`s ceramic studios pottery kettles with warmer stands, the water should by ideal for fermented teas.

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by silverneedles » Feb 10th, '09, 22:24

am late, but saw a chinese product almost exactly the same as the Medelco. 7.99 @ asian supermarket

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by Bubba_tea » Feb 11th, '09, 23:33

That's cheap! Amazon has this for $13ish:

http://www.amazon.com/Medelco-Glass-Sto ... pd_sim_k_4
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by bi lew chun » Feb 13th, '09, 16:41

MarshalN wrote:
bi lew chun wrote:
MarshalN wrote:I usually use this for regular water boiling

http://www.maywork.com/brimwake.html
The kettle looks nice, but the name of the site does not instill confidence.
Sorry, not an endorsement of the site, just the product. The reason is because this line is discontinued. It's a great, great kettle though
Sorry, just a little joke: "may work." Never mind. 8)

Since I can't seem to decide on an electric kettle, perhaps a trip to Assi will help.

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Chef's Choice SmartKettle w/ temp control: almost there

by Kale-Good » Feb 16th, '09, 15:19

(Corrected this post that I did earlier today).

Beachape, Chef's Choice makes a number of stainless steel kettles. I thought there were only silicone (made from sand) non-steel components that come into contact with the water. As was explained to me, silicone is made of sand, not plastic and is stable to about 600 degrees. I just bought their higher-end model, which allows you to control the temperature exactly, but it has some ticks plus a new discovery that motivated me to return it.

I didn't keep the Chef's Choice because the gauge that tells you how much water is in the container is made of plastic. Plus, if you put in less than a quart/liter of water, it beeps at you and turns off. I didn't want to waste the energy in boiling a quart when I need a cup. I haven't had any other electric kettles but this one is pretty loud and takes about 8 minutes to bring a 1.5 liters to boil. I don't have a point of reference beyond the old fashioned kettle on the stovetop, to which it was about the same time to boil. I am thinking about either the Chef's Choice glass kettle, which didn't seem to have any plastic in contact with the hot water, but I'm leery that the same over-zealous safety feature will force me to heat a liter every time I want one cup of tea.

I am also going to check out this Cuisinart when it's back at my local kitchen store, as the salesperson told me it has a 3 year warranty and is all steel (I have heard that before so I'll wait to see it in person):

http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-KUA-17- ... B00004S9CZ


Chef's Choice makes a version that's

The first two times I boiled water in it, in had that plasticky smell. After that it was just the smell of chlorine from my unfiltered tap reminded me to buy a new water filter...

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