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by TIM » Mar 24th, '09, 10:42

Do you mind expanding the difference between (yellow)Huang long mt. clay and (green)Qing long mt. clay? And do you have pots that your father made which uses 50 years + old aged clay? Thanks again

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by finddream2020 » Mar 24th, '09, 11:29

TIM wrote:Do you mind expanding the difference between (yellow)Huang long mt. clay and (green)Qing long mt. clay? And do you have pots that your father made which uses 50 years + old aged clay? Thanks again
i think the two is different, there are two montain(qinglong, huanglong) in the north west of ding shu town,yixing.
qinglong mt is high-quality limestone hill, using to make Cement and Lime.
longlong ago, in the north of qinglong has one clay named"tuanni", which is mixed by zini and lv ni(green). using this to make teapot is like bronze. but now is lost.
huanglong mt has the importent stuff "jia ni", "jia ni" contain the clay to make teapot, for example, zi ni, zhu ni, di cao qing ni, tian qing ni. etc.
i only know that, more i need to ask some my father or other artists.
my father now has a little these pot uses 50years + old aged clay. these are collected by him, most are selled or gift to the friend of my father.

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finddream2020 wrote:
TIM wrote:Do you mind expanding the difference between (yellow)Huang long mt. clay and (green)Qing long mt. clay? And do you have pots that your father made which uses 50 years + old aged clay? Thanks again
i think the two is different, there are two montain(qinglong, huanglong) in the north west of ding shu town,yixing.
qinglong mt is high-quality limestone hill, using to make Cement and Lime.
longlong ago, in the north of qinglong has one clay named"tuanni", which is mixed by zini and lv ni(green). using this to make teapot is like bronze. but now is lost.
huanglong mt has the importent stuff "jia ni", "jia ni" contain the clay to make teapot, for example, zi ni, zhu ni, di cao qing ni, tian qing ni. etc.
i only know that, more i need to ask some my father or other artists.
my father now has a little these pot uses 50years + old aged clay. these are collected by him, most are selled or gift to the friend of my father.
Thanks so much for the info! Love to see some picture of the 50 years old aged if possible. cheers-T

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by JustinW » Mar 24th, '09, 17:08

How are yixing typically formed, are they thrown on a wheel?

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by wyardley » Mar 24th, '09, 20:44

JustinW wrote:How are yixing typically formed, are they thrown on a wheel?
Generally not in the same way as you'd think for normal pottery, though some potters may make wheel thrown pots using raw material from Yixing. This style is more popular with pots made in Chaozhou or Taiwan, usually using local stoneware.

There are a few methods... slip-cast, hand-made using a form to help create some or most of the shape, or free-form hand-made. Using forms / molds has been around for a very long time. Slip-casting started mostly in the late 20th century (for Yixing) as far as I know. The traditional methods do use a small wheel, as you'll see in videos of people making Yixing by hand, but they don't use it in the same way that you'd use a potter's wheel, or at least that's my understanding.

There are a lot of threads on this forum that explore this in a lot greater detail, so I would do some google searches on teachat and see what you find. This is one thread that talks about different construction methods.
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?t=6415

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by lamppost » Mar 25th, '09, 00:12

Could please tell us what is the temperature that your father used to bake his teapots? Thank you.

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by MarshalN » Mar 25th, '09, 00:38

lamppost wrote:Could please tell us what is the temperature that your father used to bake his teapots? Thank you.
I won't be surprised if these things involve fairly complicated setups where location in the kiln/temperature change are involved, and some of it may very well be a secret recipe.

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by wyardley » Mar 25th, '09, 00:40

Also, I think the firing temperature depends on the type of clay.

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by finddream2020 » Mar 25th, '09, 01:05

MarshalN wrote:
lamppost wrote:Could please tell us what is the temperature that your father used to bake his teapots? Thank you.
I won't be surprised if these things involve fairly complicated setups where location in the kiln/temperature change are involved, and some of it may very well be a secret recipe.
yes, the different clay has different time, and in the same time, some are good, some are lose. i think it is very Complex.

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by finddream2020 » Mar 25th, '09, 01:13

TIM wrote:
finddream2020 wrote:
TIM wrote:Do you mind expanding the difference between (yellow)Huang long mt. clay and (green)Qing long mt. clay? And do you have pots that your father made which uses 50 years + old aged clay? Thanks again
i think the two is different, there are two montain(qinglong, huanglong) in the north west of ding shu town,yixing.
qinglong mt is high-quality limestone hill, using to make Cement and Lime.
longlong ago, in the north of qinglong has one clay named"tuanni", which is mixed by zini and lv ni(green). using this to make teapot is like bronze. but now is lost.
huanglong mt has the importent stuff "jia ni", "jia ni" contain the clay to make teapot, for example, zi ni, zhu ni, di cao qing ni, tian qing ni. etc.
i only know that, more i need to ask some my father or other artists.
my father now has a little these pot uses 50years + old aged clay. these are collected by him, most are selled or gift to the friend of my father.
Thanks so much for the info! Love to see some picture of the 50 years old aged if possible. cheers-T
i have to ask my father at weekend. generally, he don't want me to show the Precious teapot on the internet, he is traditonal,and even don't know the what is internet.

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by Aphroditea » Mar 25th, '09, 09:51

ooooo - I smell....road trip! Thanks for the great pics and the great insight and info!! I plan on buying a new pot, but not for about another 6 months, but this helps me understand what I am looking at a bit more. I have to say, all those pots in the display cases have really gotten me thinking... :D

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by TIM » Mar 25th, '09, 10:56

"i have to ask my father at weekend. generally, he don't want me to show the Precious teapot on the internet, he is traditonal,and even don't know the what is internet."

Sorry Chen... to trouble you for such a personal request, only if I could have more self control and am less obsess with good Yixing : ( I do think your knowledge of Yixing will clear and help a lot of Western myth over finer Zisha ware.

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Just want to confirm a fact that your great grand father is (冰Bing 心xin 道do 人yan) ?

Thanks again for your kind help. T

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by finddream2020 » Mar 25th, '09, 11:32

yes, you are right.

i am so amazing you can find his Chapter. it is even hard to find in china.

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by TIM » Mar 25th, '09, 11:45

finddream2020 wrote:yes, you are right.

i am so amazing you can find his Chapter. it is even hard to find in china.
Now that you had confirmed your family heritage of being one of the most famous Yixing artist in Modern times. How could you not show us your pots :wink: Sorry to put you on the spot... but, Hey it's ok to showoff your talent here :D

A basic Shui Ping perhaps? Chrl42 will for sure be thrill!
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by iannon » Mar 25th, '09, 11:50

TIM wrote:
finddream2020 wrote:yes, you are right.

i am so amazing you can find his Chapter. it is even hard to find in china.
Now that you had confirmed your family heritage of being one of the most famous Yixing artist in Modern times. How could you not show us your pots :wink: Sorry to put you on the spot... but, Hey it's ok to showoff your talent here :D

A basic Shui Ping perhaps?
didn't she already post a shui ping pot back on page 1?

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