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by edkrueger » Apr 10th, '09, 11:29

Speaking of Banko, I really love this tea pot: http://www.artisticnippon.com/product/t ... _bori.html

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by Topmounter » Apr 10th, '09, 12:02

Unfortunately Hojo has no prices on their website and have yet to respond to my query.

Placing an order with Artisitic-Nippon was all done quickly and efficiently. I placed the order yesterday afternoon, received a Paypal invoice last night and received a shipping notification first thing this morning.

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by iannon » Apr 10th, '09, 12:34

Tead Off wrote:
hojotea has some very beautiful pots, all unlined. The ones by the woman artist on his site were a step above anything I have ever seen. Not cheap, but great.
on an side note..did you see any of their "sado" teapots? i was just looking at those last week online


I just got a pricelist for a lot of their stuff..pm me if you want me to forward it to you

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by Chip » Apr 10th, '09, 14:20

I enjoy visiting the Hojo site, including the Sado offerings. They have some remarkable pots and kettles, but I am not a fan of having to ask for prices.

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by chamekke » Apr 10th, '09, 14:52

Chip wrote:I enjoy visiting the Hojo site, including the Sado offerings. They have some remarkable pots and kettles, but I am not a fan of having to ask for prices.
I feel the same way, Chip.

I wonder why some vendors are so coy about listing the prices up front? Perhaps it has something to do with currency fluctuation?
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by Tead Off » Apr 11th, '09, 05:00

Oni wrote:I own a bankoyaki teapot made by Tachi Masaki (the same artist that hojotea has), and I have noticed that it makes tea smoother and sweeter.
The earthenware pot you mentioned what clay was it? And finally the teacup, I haven`t paid much attention to it, I always thought that the teacup should be made of white porcelain, but if it can make a diffrence. Anyway I am glad that you confirm that these things do make a diffrence, so they are worth the extra cash.
The tea was made in a glazed earthenware pot. The earthenware doesn't do anything to the tea except use the water from the tetsubin. What makes the difference is simply pouring it into the Bankoyaki cup. According to Hojo, the reaction of the teawater with the clay happens immediately. The difference between this and water from stainless steel made in the same pot and poured into porcelain was profound.

If you are using the tetsubin water and brewing the tea in Bankoyaki, you can use whatever cup you want. Porcelain is fine.

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by Tead Off » Apr 11th, '09, 05:12

iannon wrote:
Tead Off wrote:
hojotea has some very beautiful pots, all unlined. The ones by the woman artist on his site were a step above anything I have ever seen. Not cheap, but great.
on an side note..did you see any of their "sado" teapots? i was just looking at those last week online


I just got a pricelist for a lot of their stuff..pm me if you want me to forward it to you
I'll try to answer a few things here. Hojo has 1 store in KL and his internet business is out of Japan. He is in the process of redoing his site. His pricelist is a standard pdf that he sends to you. He's very straightforward and rigorous in his selections. Quality is important to him and he has excellent taste.

I had a demo of artificial red clay teapot vs Sado pot vs real yixing pot. We started with Taiwan Dong Ding. Stainless kettle into glass teapot to brew tea. Tea was then poured into glass pot, sado pot and yixing pot, then poured into porcelain cups. Hojo says the teawater just has to touch the pots to change the taste.

At first, the artificial pot had a burst of flavor but died. The Sado and yixing pot deepened and smoothed the taste but prolonged the finish noticeably. Both were far superior than using any of the myriad yixing pots sold at various sites around the world for a pittance (under at least $100). After a few rounds and then on to another oolong, the real yixing pot was mind blowing. A zhuni pot that had a finish that lasted forever. For me, this is what i am looking for except the pot cost $1800!!

Would I buy a Sado pot? Only if I coudn't afford a red clay yixing. Will I buy a Sado pot? Maybe. I like Hojo so much that I might go for one and keep it for a select tea. I certainly am not going for the $1800.

Hope this helps someone, but, tea is so subjective. Even our own body chemistry, mood, time of day, will effect tea drinking, I think.

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by Oni » Apr 11th, '09, 07:05

What is the price of one of these sado teapots? If they match the performance of a real yixing pot, at less price, considering that it is really hard to find original red clay yixing pot and they are above 500 $, if the sado is a lot cheaper it would be great for our oolongs and I would be happy to make a collection for my favourite oolongs.

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by iannon » Apr 11th, '09, 10:17

Oni wrote:What is the price of one of these sado teapots? If they match the performance of a real yixing pot, at less price, considering that it is really hard to find original red clay yixing pot and they are above 500 $, if the sado is a lot cheaper it would be great for our oolongs and I would be happy to make a collection for my favourite oolongs.
from the price list I got the Sado's are all running between 280 and 330 dollars

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by Oni » Apr 11th, '09, 16:38

The price is more than I expected.

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by Tead Off » Apr 12th, '09, 05:24

Oni wrote:The price is more than I expected.
Keep in mind that you have Hojo's guarantee that the product is made from pure 100% natural clay. It is better than commercial red pots without a doubt. They are nicely made as I have handled them myself. Like yixing zhuni, they are oxidized. They are made on a wheel unlike the construction of yixing pots which are hand built. Japanese products are not usually cheap, but, they are well made and always aesthetically pleasing. I don't think it would be money badly spent if you can afford one.

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by chingwa » Apr 12th, '09, 16:27

I can vouch for the quality of products that Hojo sells, at least as far as Tetsubin go. I realize I never posted a picture of the tetsubin I purchased through Hojo, as I had meant to do. Below is an older picture when I first received it... and it shows me blindly using over the gas stove (argh! don't do it!). The craftsmanship is excellent, I'm extremely happy with mine.

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by MarshalN » Apr 12th, '09, 21:08

There are other reasons why vendors have pricelists that you have to ask for -- they practice price discrimination, i.e. charging different people different prices.

I'm not saying Hojo does it, but I know for a fact that at least one vendor does this for people from different regions -- Europeans vs Americans. Some of the prices charged can be as much as 40% different. That's not currency fluctuation talking.

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by Chip » Apr 12th, '09, 21:57

MarshalN wrote:There are other reasons why vendors have pricelists that you have to ask for -- they practice price discrimination, i.e. charging different people different prices.

I'm not saying Hojo does it, but I know for a fact that at least one vendor does this for people from different regions -- Europeans vs Americans. Some of the prices charged can be as much as 40% different. That's not currency fluctuation talking.
Exactly my thoughts, and also not regarding Hojo since I have no knowledge of their practices. Still it is a nagging thought nevertheless.
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by Topmounter » Apr 12th, '09, 22:28

I did end up getting a response from Hojo with the PDF price list.... not sure if this was mentioned, but his stuff is all built-to-order.

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