Show Off Your Pots and Cups VII

[olivierco]

Olivier: Very nice chataku! Which cup or yunomi have you tried these with?

I have tried with this one so far:



Perhaps a little too big for the chataku.

[gingkoseto]

i think that it might show a blush quite fast, and the surface as is, is already a bit smooth... only downside i think is the depth of color... the picture appears darker than the actual color, hoping that with shou pu erh, its gonna gain deeper color too!

It may not be a bad thing at all to have the surface smooth. I heard nowadays many people like smoother clay because that means it doesn't get any extra sands mixed in. Clays with sand mixed in are not as expensive as pure clays. I like the feeling of sands, and constantly thinking of buying a pot from YS with lots of big sand grains. Then when I showed it to a friend, he would always say, "it's too raw!" So I haven't bought it yet, not because my friend dislike it, but mainly because even I myself don't know if I will like smoother or sander clay after a while I am very blind about "ni" and can't really tell di cao qing from qing shui ni.But anyway your shui ping pots look all good "ni" to me.

as for your "bad ni" comment... i do agree with that, but with a small difference...
for me, there really is no bad ni... after all its still clay... just dont mess with adding harmful chemicals!!!

-darwin

Yeah, the bad "ni", I meant bad non-"ni" component. Also there is this Jia ni. In nature, zisha ni is sandwiched between Jia ni layers. But nowadays because zisha is so rare, even Jia ni is used a lot to replace the real zisha.

[chrl42]

before hitting the bed..

Take a look at example of good clay

Zhu Jin Lin's http://www.chinataodu.com/ctdupload/for ... 015533.jpg

Also my opinion about good clay http://teadrunk.org/viewtopic.php?id=33

I wonder your opinion about good clay, Darwin. In fact, that taobao pots look good to me, much better than YS IMHO. Feel free to speak your opinion.

Good clay.........Zhu Jin Lin's clay has lots of sand, sand is different from grit. Sand is a measurement for good clay rather. Cos it plays a role in making 'jade' quality. Sand is quartz mineral. In Chinese, sand is 沙 and grit is called 砂 or 顆粒.

What makes it different from bad clay IMO

The patina gets deeper, smoothness is when you wipe with a towel. Feeling is so smooth and comfort. My ingredient contained pot doesn't develope patina after a month, stays the same.

You can get clay smoother if filtered by 100-hole sieve then you won't get naturality or good patina. You get good patina if filtered by 30-hole sieve then texture will be tough. Good clay doesn't have to be filtered by small holes to make it smoother, cos natural component is dense.

Second is tea brewing. Sand delievers smoother brewing, iron/alumina content delivers more dense texture that holds aroma or enables to fire at high temp.

It's just my opinion....

[Ms Kita B]

Just received all of this in the mail today.

[Victoria]

WOW!! Gorgeous!! All of it!
Congrats!!

[gerTEA]

Wow, I LOVE all that gleaming glassware - gorgeous!

[Salsero]

Sweet set up, Ms. Kita B!

[Ms Kita B]

Thanks all! I have 2 jay strommen chawans I'm waiting on now and can't wait 2 take pics

[odarwin]

chrl... thanks for your inputs, i really appreciate them, they are really very informative and helpful.
i guess id like to approach my purchase from taobao in a more skeptical manner.
probably because of lack of knowledge on my part and also is a bit cautious to buy pots on line.

i think i understand better your point on the smoothness with respect to larger particles and finer particles.

here are more close up pictures of both pots and would highlight clay a bit more.
please do feel free to comment on the quality.




-darwin

[chrl42]

here are more close up pictures of both pots and would highlight clay a bit more.
please do feel free to comment on the quality.

-darwin

It's not Zini. It's either Qing Shui ni or Di Cao Qing. Doesn't look like typical mixed form, IMO it's closer to pure form.

Diffrence betwwen QSN and DCQ, many books note, patina developed while using. QSN is known for not developing patina, cos it's very unglossy.

DCQ is a kind of QSN. DCQ is mined from deepest QSN ore bed. Demand for them is opposite. Location of DCQ acquires it more Fe and other heavy mineral content, so heavier and glossier (QSN is light). DCQ and Zhuni are about the heaviest clay cos they are mined from lowest or deepest location. Color for them is very similar, but DCQ is stronger.

If you comment negative about the clay due to rough texture or dots. That might be because it's right out of original bed. Clay can be much smoother and colorful if filtered carefully, or mixes other clays or containing Shi Huang. But many ppl prefer naturality (Yuan Kuang).

And quality and price of DCQ differ depending on what mind it is from.

no.4 mine DCQ exterminated long ago, was what made up of museum Yixings. trait is lots of sand content, like Zhu Jin Lin clay above.

no.5 mine DCQ doesn't have many sand, and color is very stronge.

I don't much about Hufu DCQ, so skip..

My recommendation is, use it for a while and wipe it often. And see how it changes also don't forget the result of brewing.

charlie

[bearsbearsbears]

Black basaltware tea tray, made by Davin for yours truly:



Really cool glaze spotting details can be seen in these pics:





J'adore!

[Ms Kita B]

Wow I love that tray bears!

[Smells_Familiar]

me too! sweet5 tray!!

[brianlavelle]

That is an astonishingly beautiful tray. Congratulations!

Does Davin take commissions? I would love to get one in that style, but have never been able to find one remotely similar here in the UK.

[brianlavelle]

Here's my new little pot, a Chaozhou and Yixing piece, obtained from NadaCha. It's about 100/105ml. I loved its slightly more upright shape and it seems very well made; the lid, in particular, fits beautifully.