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by chamekke » May 16th, '08, 18:03

tenuki wrote: <nod>

But I have a weakness for cherry blossoms. Which I find embarrassing since they are so common and I would like to think of myself as having unique tastes. :D My excuse is that we had a small cherry orchard growing up and I as a small boy I spent many many happy hours playing in those trees.
OK then, tenuki... this one is for you. It's the only sakura-themed chawan I own.

This is the main side:

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And here is the view on the other side of the teabowl.

In tea ceremony the guest turns the teabowl while drinking so as not to drink from the front of the bowl, as a gesture of respect/humility. Therefore, some chawan-makers incorporate a smaller, more modest design on the opposite side of the bowl (or sometimes, on the inside of the bowl, again opposite the main design) so that the guest can enjoy the beauty of the bowl while drinking from it.

Which kind of misses the point, but I think it's rather charming!

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by Pentox » May 16th, '08, 18:07

Ooo that is quite the nice chawan. I still a bit torn personally between the whole kuro raku / wabi sabi notion of chawans and the finely refined ones. If only that was a sencha teacup, that would be amazing.

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by bambooforest » May 16th, '08, 18:15

Chamekke, both of those chawans are amazing. Please indulge me, where did you source them?

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by chamekke » May 16th, '08, 18:22

Pentox wrote:Ooo that is quite the nice chawan. I still a bit torn personally between the whole kuro raku / wabi sabi notion of chawans and the finely refined ones. If only that was a sencha teacup, that would be amazing.
Well, here's the thing. I've never had it formally explained to me, but there seem to be two "flavours" of chawan, and it has to do with their functions within the Japanese tea ceremony:

Wabi-style chawan-s
- Simple, often rugged, style
- Usually with no design or pattern
- Often textured and "rough"
- Often natural- or earth-coloured
- Frequently unglazed
- May be irregularly shaped or lopsided
- May be of a material that retains heat more effectively (e.g. Raku)
- Almost always used when making koicha ("thick tea")
- Occasionally used when making usucha ("thin tea").

More elaborate chawan-s
- Often have a fancier style
- Likelier to be symmetrical in shape
- Often include a design (which can be extremely detailed/elaborate)
- Design is frequently seasonal
- Can feature any colour combination
- Visual emphasis tends to be on the design, rather than its "background"
- Typically used for making usucha - almost never for koicha.

In a full tea event (chaji), the guests are served a light meal (kaiseki) and a sweet; then they receive koicha; then usucha. During the koicha part of the event, the koicha is drunk from a common chawan. This part of the event is considered the most solemn, and it has a communion-like feel about it; because the tone is contemplative, the guests are typically quiet and don't speak much (aside from a few formulaic questions-and-answers about the tea utensils). So a more sober chawan is more appropriate at this time.

Usucha, however, is literally and figuratively "lighter" - each person receives their own bowl, and there is frequently casual conversation during this part of the chaji. This is where the host can choose teabowls appropriate to each guest and/or to the season. In effect, it's where everyone can be a little more relaxed, and have a little more fun.

So even the most "wabi"-inclined host is likely to use Kyoyaki bowls (like the sakurayanagi bowl above) at least part of the time - usually to indicate an appreciation of the season when serving usucha to the guests. Seasonality, and a genuine sensitivity for what is happening in nature outside the tearoom, is of tremendous importance in the tea world. That's one reason that tea people often have a teabowl for each year of the Asian zodiac - even though the bowl then goes into storage for 11 years out of every 12!

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by chamekke » May 16th, '08, 18:33

bambooforest wrote:Chamekke, both of those chawans are amazing. Please indulge me, where did you source them?
I've only got the one chawan up there - the sakura (cherry) one. I bought it from an eBay seller called sakura-zipang last year. It's a used (second-hand) chawan.

At the risk of completely spamming this thread with "sakura stuff", I'm going to quote from a thread I posted to another forum on the difference between sakura and ume ("plum" or apricot):

First, here are some teabowls (chawan) that are decorated with the ume motif.

A photo from iStockPhoto:
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From Imaya Co.:
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From Rakuten (this is nejime-ume, or the "twisted" plum design):
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And now, for contrast, some sakura.

From Sannenzaka.com:
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From Rakuten:
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And another from Rakuten (showing the trunk!):
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On the whole, I tend to like ume best :) Those dramatic reds and whites!
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by Pentox » May 16th, '08, 18:34

Wow I feel like i've got one of those big The more you know star swooshes above my head right now.

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by tenuki » May 16th, '08, 18:34

Pentox wrote:I still a bit torn personally between the whole kuro raku / wabi sabi notion of chawans and the finely refined ones.
I dunno, what is one without the other?
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by chamekke » May 16th, '08, 18:36

Pentox wrote:Wow I feel like i've got one of those big The more you know star swooshes above my head right now.
I do tend to be a bit of a tea-ceremony bore at times... {takes off pedantic "professor" cap sheepishly}
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by Pentox » May 16th, '08, 18:38

chamekke wrote:
Pentox wrote:Wow I feel like i've got one of those big The more you know star swooshes above my head right now.
I do tend to be a bit of a tea-ceremony bore at times... {takes off pedantic "professor" cap sheepishly}
Lol, I wouldn't say that it was boring, far from it. It's more a feeling like getting hit by the great realization that I don't know jack.

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by chamekke » May 16th, '08, 18:43

All this is just the background on how these styles traditionally were/are used in tea ceremony. For those simply enjoying matcha at home, it's really just noise.

It seems that most of the people on TeaChat really prefer the wabi-er stuff. I guess the advantage of the wabi chawan-s (aside from their seasonlessness, which makes them usable year-round) is the fact you can pretty much use them for either type of tea. So if you eventually do go in for tea ceremony, you're already well stocked!

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by tenuki » May 16th, '08, 18:46

Chamekke, this material would be a great addition to the 'what to look for in a chawan' lecture you gave me via PM... when are you posting that?!?
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by chamekke » May 16th, '08, 18:52

tenuki wrote:Chamekke, this material would be a great addition to the 'what to look for in a chawan' lecture you gave me via PM... when are you posting that?!?
Actually I was thinking of putting it on a blog... :wink:

Then it will be all in one place.

Of course, I could post it here, and put it in my blog...
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by Pentox » May 16th, '08, 18:57

Just do what I do, post it on your blog and put a post here that says, HEY READ MAH BLLLOGGG.

Yeah I wish I could go more into the actual ceremony, but it's a sad side effect of where I live.... Nothing around here at all.

I do have my own hearth though.

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by joelbct » May 16th, '08, 19:39

Less talk, more teaware!

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by brandon » May 17th, '08, 09:35

I see instructional videos in Chamekke's future.

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