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by britt » Jul 10th, '08, 08:54

Chip wrote:Semi official proclamation... :!: :idea: :arrow:

Discussions on politics rarely end well here unfortunately. It seems to bring emotions to the surface. It would likely be best to move on.

I have seen TeaFriends become TeaEnemies discussing these issues.

Nobody did anything wrong, per se, although there is a no politics discussion rule on TeaChat partially for this reason.
Looks like I missed something. Since the declaration is only semi-official...

First, what is politics? Discussing reality? How can politics be separated from other subjects? Politics affects every person, every day, in every area of their lives. Most people are in a state of denial so refuse to face up to this, but it is a reality.

Politics, if we wish to call it that, can also affect tea and teaware, which has already been discussed by a few open-minded forum members. It's great to be happy and carefree, but we should not be delusional.

Politics is responsible for fake, often contaminated $9.99 Yixing teapots from mainland China and poisoned tea to brew in them. Not everything from there is affected, but the problem is serious enough that tea-drinkers need to face up to it. We're not getting a good deal when drinking poisoned tea brewed in contaminated teapots, regardless of how cheap they were.

The US and Canada are affected as well. If tea is considered to have health benefits, and how many here would dispute that, our rights as consumers to drink it may be limited or removed by Codex. The Central American Free Trade Agreement passed by the US Congress in 2005 contained the Codex clause. Canada's current attempt to criminalize the use of anything natural that has thereputic value is also related to Codex. Codex legislation could very well affect the future of everything natural, from blueberries to tea, and restrict or eliminate our freedom to consume them in North America.

We'll see how related tea and politics are on this forum should our right to consume Miyabi or Da Yu Ling be diminsihed or removed by government and Big Pharma.

Canadian Action Party's homepage:

http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/home.html

Canada's C-51:

http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/p ... &zine=show

Canadian Action Party's Codex alert:

http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/p ... &zine=show

Canadian Action Party's FDA alert:

http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/p ... &zine=show

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by joelbct » Jul 10th, '08, 09:45

Wesli wrote:Ok now, no more quoting these photo-chains. If you feel you need to, quote at most one pot you are actually replying to.
Seriously... thread pollution ;)

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by joelbct » Jul 10th, '08, 09:57

britt wrote:The US and Canada are affected as well. If tea is considered to have health benefits, and how many here would dispute that, our rights as consumers to drink it may be limited or removed by Codex. The Central American Free Trade Agreement passed by the US Congress in 2005 contained the Codex clause. Canada's current attempt to criminalize the use of anything natural that has thereputic value is also related to Codex. Codex legislation could very well affect the future of everything natural, from blueberries to tea, and restrict or eliminate our freedom to consume them in North America.
That is nuts. I'm always dumbfounded by the way that non-patentable health products are treated by the US Government (read- US vested Pharmaceutical interests).

While I hear Chip's take and I think political discussions should be kept to at least a minimum on teachat, I don't think it is possible or desirable to avoid politics 100%, because as Britt states, everything is political.

I would just encourage everyone to remember the Spirit of Tea, the Spirit of Teachat, and the maxim of "Restraint of Pen and Tongue (and keyboard)."

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by Victoria » Jul 10th, '08, 10:26

joelbct wrote: While I hear Chip's take and I think political discussions should be kept to at least a minimum on teachat, I don't think it is possible or desirable to avoid politics 100%, because as Britt states, everything is political.

I would just encourage everyone to remember the Spirit of Tea, the Spirit of Teachat, and the maxim of "Restraint of Pen and Tongue (and keyboard)."
I agree with the above. Especially "Spirit of Tea, the Spirit of Teachat". But more importantly this thread specifically is to show off your pots and cups. Can we please keep it at that? If anyone wants to discuss or debate political issues I suggest they take it to PM. I for one, do not want to read it here, or have to scroll past it when looking at teaware.

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by Buzz Fledderjohn » Jul 10th, '08, 11:33

Victoria wrote: I agree with the above. Especially "Spirit of Tea, the Spirit of Teachat". But more importantly this thread specifically is to show off your pots and cups. Can we please keep it at that? If anyone wants to discuss or debate political issues I suggest they take it to PM. I for one, do not want to read it here, or have to scroll past it when looking at teaware.
Amen, sister.

(Hopefully that doesn't spark a religious debate :) )

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by MarshalN » Jul 10th, '08, 12:46

Victoria wrote:
joelbct wrote: While I hear Chip's take and I think political discussions should be kept to at least a minimum on teachat, I don't think it is possible or desirable to avoid politics 100%, because as Britt states, everything is political.

I would just encourage everyone to remember the Spirit of Tea, the Spirit of Teachat, and the maxim of "Restraint of Pen and Tongue (and keyboard)."
I agree with the above. Especially "Spirit of Tea, the Spirit of Teachat". But more importantly this thread specifically is to show off your pots and cups. Can we please keep it at that? If anyone wants to discuss or debate political issues I suggest they take it to PM. I for one, do not want to read it here, or have to scroll past it when looking at teaware.
Agreed, which is why I haven't said a word since :)

In the spirit of showing off teaware

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by scruffmcgruff » Jul 10th, '08, 12:50

Salsero wrote:
Chip wrote:Semi official proclamation... ... Discussions on politics rarely end well here unfortunately.
Not to mention one or two serious blow ups about philosophy. :roll:
Who, me? :oops:

I'm disappointed I missed the drama! Oh well, I can probably guess what it was about.

Also, amen Victoria. I realize I am just further spoiling this thread, but seriously, the rants, though I would prefer they not be posted at all (read: for the 50-somethingth time), should at least be posted in a different thread.

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by Victoria » Jul 10th, '08, 12:58

MarshalN wrote:
Agreed, which is why I haven't said a word since :)

In the spirit of showing off teaware
Thank you :)

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Wow, that is lovely. I seriously need some silver in my teaware collection.
Still looking for a silver kettle or pot, but something like this may satiate the
craving until I find the perfect piece.

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by Geekgirl » Jul 10th, '08, 13:09

Victoria wrote: Wow, that is lovely. I seriously need some silver in my teaware collection.
Still looking for a silver kettle or pot, but something like this may satiate the
craving until I find the perfect piece.
Agreed. Stainless is just not quite scratching that itch.

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by britt » Jul 10th, '08, 14:03

joelbct wrote:That is nuts. I'm always dumbfounded by the way that non-patentable health products are treated by the US Government (read- US vested Pharmaceutical interests).

While I hear Chip's take and I think political discussions should be kept to at least a minimum on teachat, I don't think it is possible or desirable to avoid politics 100%, because as Britt states, everything is political.

I would just encourage everyone to remember the Spirit of Tea, the Spirit of Teachat, and the maxim of "Restraint of Pen and Tongue (and keyboard)."
A fair reply that is very well stated. I mean the whole thing, not just the last sentence that everyone else chose to focus on.

In the spirit of this being a teaware thread and to get it back on track, here's a teaset honoring one of the Teachat forum's most popular heroes:

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by MarshalN » Jul 10th, '08, 18:49

Victoria wrote: Wow, that is lovely. I seriously need some silver in my teaware collection.
Still looking for a silver kettle or pot, but something like this may satiate the
craving until I find the perfect piece.
Actually....

This is NOT silver!

It's pure tin! :)

Silver will set me back a few hundred bucks. This thing only cost me about $80.

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by MarshalN » Jul 10th, '08, 18:50

britt wrote:
joelbct wrote:That is nuts. I'm always dumbfounded by the way that non-patentable health products are treated by the US Government (read- US vested Pharmaceutical interests).

While I hear Chip's take and I think political discussions should be kept to at least a minimum on teachat, I don't think it is possible or desirable to avoid politics 100%, because as Britt states, everything is political.

I would just encourage everyone to remember the Spirit of Tea, the Spirit of Teachat, and the maxim of "Restraint of Pen and Tongue (and keyboard)."
A fair reply that is very well stated. I mean the whole thing, not just the last sentence that everyone else chose to focus on.

In the spirit of this being a teaware thread and to get it back on track, here's a teaset honoring one of the Teachat forum's most popular heroes:

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Wow, Lin Biao

Where did you get it?

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by Victoria » Jul 10th, '08, 18:52

MarshalN wrote: Actually....

This is NOT silver!

It's pure tin! :)

Silver will set me back a few hundred bucks. This thing only cost me about $80.
Wow, it looks like silver, very nice. And no tarnishing?? Hopefully!

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by MarshalN » Jul 10th, '08, 18:56

Victoria wrote:
Wow, it looks like silver, very nice. And no tarnishing?? Hopefully!
Tin doesn't tarnish like silver does -- so in some ways, it's better. If it's silver, it'll be black all over pretty quickly if you don't polish it.

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what is your opinion?

by orguz » Jul 10th, '08, 19:06

Hello this is a qeustion directed to hopgoblin:

I bought 2 pots from 5000friend after extensive cleaning i managed to remove the fake tea stains, still some dark pits remain. what is your personal experience when using pots from 5000friend, and would these unremovable stains bother you? Thanking you in advance for a response. I asked you because you also bought pots from them.

http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k476 ... nt=001.jpg

http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k476 ... nt=002.jpg

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