Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

[kyarazen]

can you post the chinese name?

鈺壺雅集 probably.

i haz teh soft copy but dont really refer to it anymore.. the 70s printed catalogue of ihsing wares, and the 80s fang yuan printed catalogue is more complete and just as useful although there's just so much on flower pots

[bagua7]

Yes, Taiwan may be a Yixing paradise. But with my poor knowledge, it is hard to tell apart the F1s from the 80s/90s/00s private order/fakes.

You'd need a good guide like chrl42 or kyarazen. Not that the Taiwanese would rip you off, but Yixing is a very touchy and difficult subject, and also the Taiwanese market might be flooded with fakes from the mainland, so who knows.

[kyarazen]

You'd need a good guide like chrl42. Not that the Taiwanese would rip you off, but Yixing is a very touchy and difficult subject, and also the Taiwanese market might be flooded with fakes from the mainland, so who knows.

pls exclude me from the list! my experience with yixing is as good as a few weeks old! there are some crouching tiger and hidden snails that know incredibly much, but are just as incredibly clammed up.

[xiaobai]

Yes, Taiwan may be a Yixing paradise. But with my poor knowledge, it is hard to tell apart the F1s from the 80s/90s/00s private order/fakes.

You'd need a good guide like chrl42 or kyarazen. Not that the Taiwanese would rip you off, but Yixing is a very touchy and difficult subject, and also the Taiwanese market might be flooded with fakes from the mainland, so who knows.

Thank you for the advice!

Anyway, I would welcome whatever help people on TC can offer.
As a matter of fact, as far as I can tell, not all fakes come from the mainland. For instance, if you were presented with this one:

http://www.pcstore.com.tw/ataabu/M06693105.htm

Would you be able to tell (as it is claimed by the vendor) that it was
actually made in Taiwan by the hands-throwing method?

It is a complicated world... The only thing that I would like to make sure is that whatever pots I have, I and my family can easily and safely brew tea in them. And that is something that I am still not 100% sure with Yixing, unless you are lucky enough to own a Qing or CR pot of good craftsmanship. But then, who would dare to use such an expensive item on a daily basis?

[the_economist]

Why would a Qing or RoC pot be safer than a later period factory pot?

[xiaobai]

Why would a Qing or RoC pot be safer than a later period factory pot?

Yes, you are right. In principle, they are not necessary safer...

If the modern pots are tested and do not leach heavy metals into your tea, then the answer is obvious (never mind the legendary clays of the past).

However, naively one may expect that during the Qing dynasty or the early ROC, Yixing and its dwellers did not suffer from the pollution problems described, for instance, here:

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/chinas_dir ... rops/2782/

or here

https://www.chinadialogue.net/article/1 ... Taihu-Lake

If the water in Tai lake is not clean (and this is one of the main sources of fresh water in the area), how can we expect the Yixing clay (natural or mixed) to be clean? You need water to make pottery!

[Tead Off]

Why would a Qing or RoC pot be safer than a later period factory pot?

Yes, you are right. In principle, they are not necessary safer...

If the modern pots are tested and do not leach heavy metals into your tea, then the answer is obvious (never mind the legendary clays of the past).

However, naively one may expect that during the Qing dynasty or the early ROC, Yixing and its dwellers did not suffer from the pollution problems described, for instance, here:

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/chinas_dir ... rops/2782/

https://www.chinadialogue.net/article/1 ... Taihu-Lake

If the water in Tai lake is not clean (and this is one of the main sources of fresh water in the area), how can we expect the Yixing clay (natural or mixed) to be clean? You need water to make pottery!

Are you really going to test all the newer teapots that you bought?

[xiaobai]

Are you really going to test all the newer teapots that you bought?

Will you offer me a special price?

[Tead Off]

Are you really going to test all the newer teapots that you bought?

Will you offer me a special price?

I don't understand what you mean.

[the_economist]

Why would a Qing or RoC pot be safer than a later period factory pot?

Yes, you are right. In principle, they are not necessary safer...

If the modern pots are tested and do not leach heavy metals into your tea, then the answer is obvious (never mind the legendary clays of the past).

However, naively one may expect that during the Qing dynasty or the early ROC, Yixing and its dwellers did not suffer from the pollution problems described, for instance, here:

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/chinas_dir ... rops/2782/

or here

https://www.chinadialogue.net/article/1 ... Taihu-Lake

If the water in Tai lake is not clean (and this is one of the main sources of fresh water in the area), how can we expect the Yixing clay (natural or mixed) to be clean? You need water to make pottery!

Looks like even up to the 1980s Taihu was pretty and clean. A pity it is so polluted now.

[xiaobai]

Are you really going to test all the newer teapots that you bought?

Will you offer me a special price?

I don't understand what you mean.

Just kidding...

Nevermind (Unless you are a representative for S.G.S. ...)

[bagua7]

pls exclude me from the list! my experience with yixing is as good as a few weeks old! there are some crouching tiger and hidden snails that know incredibly much, but are just as incredibly clammed up.

No probs...I will

You mean registered TC users?

Oops, I forgot about Teaism, he is also quite knowledgeable.

For instance, if you were presented with this one:

http://www.pcstore.com.tw/ataabu/M06693105.htm

Would you be able to tell (as it is claimed by the vendor) that it was
actually made in Taiwan by the hands-throwing method?

I don't know about that...but if the clay used was from Yixing, why not? Nothing is impossible, it's all up to the potter's skill.

[kyarazen]

No probs...I will

You mean registered TC users?

Oops, I forgot about Teaism, he is also quite knowledgeable.

yeap Teaism is knowledgeable and willing to share too

but there are some others here that are really crouching tigers. i was pleasantly "surprised"/"shocked"

[Arthur]

Hello all,
Is this teapot made in 80's?
Thanks,

[Tead Off]

Difficult to tell from these pics. Need closeups of the clay exterior and interior including how the water passage to the spout. Nice shape.