Re: Not my teaware.....but I wish it were....
I would say it is not entirely handmade. The one piece interior lid work like this is very hard for any yixing potters to make, and so its normally half handmade. Therefore, it doesn't get along with the subpar craftsmanship of the pot. Without looking any further, I am more than 90% sure its not fully handmade. For the age of the teapot, its not a very good idea to trust what inscribed on the lid. Anyone can did that on purpose.
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Yes, on the lid skirt (一九五二年) =(1952).achyle wrote:on the lid skirtTead Off wrote:Where is the 1952 claim?
Agreed!For the age of the teapot, its not a very good idea to trust what inscribed on the lid. Anyone can did that on purpose.
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Been thinking the same thing ...Devoted135 wrote:This has turned into a very helpful and informative discussion that is not really at home in this particular thread.
Chip, I'd like to request that the various yixing discussions that started with devilducklings' request for help back on page 14 (March 18th) be split into its own topic. Thanks for considering it!

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Thank you for your inputs guys but I never said that I was trusting what's inscribed on the lid, that's why I said "claims to be from".茶藝-TeaArt08 wrote:(Yes, on the lid skirt (一九五二年) =(1952).achyle wrote:on the lid skirtTead Off wrote:Where is the 1952 claim?
Agreed!For the age of the teapot, its not a very good idea to trust what inscribed on the lid. Anyone can did that on purpose.
However, I'd like to investigate this pot a little further and if someone can provide details on what to look for in terms of Marks, hints on a pot that was fired in a wood kiln that would be very helpful I think for a lot of us.
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Yixing potters very rarely inscribe western counting system (as in roman number or Chinese translation of it),
Most of the time they use 60-cycle system, which circulate in every 60 years (like Jiazi as in 1924, 1984, 2044 or Jaiwu as in 2014, 1954 etc)....
I think the value of the pots is more important than the date of the pots, if you like it, would it matter when it was made?
Most of the time they use 60-cycle system, which circulate in every 60 years (like Jiazi as in 1924, 1984, 2044 or Jaiwu as in 2014, 1954 etc)....
I think the value of the pots is more important than the date of the pots, if you like it, would it matter when it was made?

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Poached from Facebook this morning. I love this, and find it so inspiring.
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I'm 100% with you, I don't really care about the date but I do care to know a little more about my pots, it's like they want to talk to me but I'm lost in translation, even more than that; I don't speak their language yet and I'm sure you are one of a few in this forum who knows that learning Yixing Pottery is a long path.chrl42 wrote:Yixing potters very rarely inscribe western counting system (as in roman number or Chinese translation of it),
Most of the time they use 60-cycle system, which circulate in every 60 years (like Jiazi as in 1924, 1984, 2044 or Jaiwu as in 2014, 1954 etc)....
I think the value of the pots is more important than the date of the pots, if you like it, would it matter when it was made?

Sorry guys to be off topic again.
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Hamada Shinsaku-san is certainly still doing OK. Every time I've been there visiting he is still in the studio working. And yeah... the home and studio there is a great general environment. Great pots everywhere.
I hope when I am his age to still be working like that. Although it does help that he has Tomoo-san and the employees at the studio to help with the "heavy work".
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I hope when I am his age to still be working like that. Although it does help that he has Tomoo-san and the employees at the studio to help with the "heavy work".
best,
................john
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That's great to hear John. I could use some help with heavy work myself! I also hope I can work as I get up there in years. Thing were certainly easier on the body when I was in my 20's.JBaymore wrote:Hamada Shinsaku-san is certainly still doing OK. Every time I've been there visiting he is still in the studio working. And yeah... the home and studio there is a great general environment. Great pots everywhere.
I hope when I am his age to still be working like that. Although it does help that he has Tomoo-san and the employees at the studio to help with the "heavy work".
best,
................john
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Great catalogue.
Nice to see a bunch of nice pieces in there by a friend of mine..... Shimada Fumio-san. LOVE his porcelain.
And the Miura Koheiji pieces seem a bit lowballed on the prices. Had the pleasure of meeting him a few times when I was at Tokyo Geidai.
The Rosanjin plate at 185 is sweet.
Arrrggghhhhhh. I better go buy a lottery ticket.
best,
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Nice to see a bunch of nice pieces in there by a friend of mine..... Shimada Fumio-san. LOVE his porcelain.
And the Miura Koheiji pieces seem a bit lowballed on the prices. Had the pleasure of meeting him a few times when I was at Tokyo Geidai.
The Rosanjin plate at 185 is sweet.
Arrrggghhhhhh. I better go buy a lottery ticket.

best,
....................john
Re: Not my teaware.....but I wish it were....
JBaymore wrote:Great catalogue.
Nice to see a bunch of nice pieces in there by a friend of mine..... Shimada Fumio-san. LOVE his porcelain.
And the Miura Koheiji pieces seem a bit lowballed on the prices. Had the pleasure of meeting him a few times when I was at Tokyo Geidai.
The Rosanjin plate at 185 is sweet.
Arrrggghhhhhh. I better go buy a lottery ticket.![]()
best,
....................john
It's a pretty extraordinary collection going for sale! Some of the prices do seem a bit low, especially the Rosanjin plates, while others are astronomical, like his over-glaze enameled bowl. Most of these pots seem museum-worthy. I also love those Miura Koheiji celadon pieces; gorgeous colors. What do you think of Tamura Koichi's works? Is he from Mashiko? I'd love those two Hamada vases!!