Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by edkrueger » Oct 10th, '10, 12:42

Water, rice and koji would not make sake, yeast is needed. Also, I can't see why adding refined alcohol to the brewing process would lead to hangovers.

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by Kunkali » Oct 10th, '10, 18:45

Safe to give to children? Kukicha gave me such a buzz one night it kept me up until 6 in the morning. Some of those claims they make I definitely question.

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by edkrueger » Oct 11th, '10, 00:17

Really? You must be extremely sensitive to caffeine or, maybe, there is a placebo effect.

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by Chip » Oct 11th, '10, 00:40

There is usually some leaf in the mix, depending on how much ... I too have been caffeinated by kuki.

Of course, add matcha and weeeeeeeee .... weeeeeeee ....

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by rdl » Oct 11th, '10, 11:46

Chip wrote:There is usually some leaf in the mix, depending on how much ... I too have been caffeinated by kuki.
the quote i used is from a macrobiotic company. they are careful to use twigs from older plants (and 2nd or 3rd harvest i think) that conforms to their non-caffeine standards. kukicha is made in many ways by different producers so like most discussions there can exist many dimensions to one's experiences. fortunately so!

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by togei » Oct 13th, '10, 01:42

Regarding the cost of bancha.
I just finished a 9 day firing of my large kiln. During the firing I noticed my neighbors were cutting tea in the fields around my house. This is the final cutting for this year. I mosied on over and asked if they would sell me some and how much it would be.
Free.
They gave me 4 kilos with the comment, 'It's bancha'.
I assume I get a 50% discount since I am a local so to get a good feel of how expensive it is multiply free by 200% to get an idea on price.
I would be happy to send 500 gram packages to 8 people for the yen price of shipping. Tea = free.
I am a little backed up on other projects but could get it in the mail by next week.
Dave

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by edkrueger » Oct 13th, '10, 17:03

That is very generous! Do you know what type of Bancha its it? Is it green?

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by togei » Oct 13th, '10, 20:46

Hello Ed,
It is green.
What kind is it?? I wasn't aware there were different types other than 1st cut, 2nd. cut, etc. This is a 2nd or 3rd cut of the tea. If you mean what species of plant, no, I don't know. Japanese green tea species perhaps?
It is interesting that even -free- bancha doesn't have a line waiting to take it.
If you would like some shipping is 780 yen by SAL, 2,200 yen by EMS. SAL takes between 2-5 weeks, EMS between 3 days and about a week. Please send me a message and I will give you details through that.
Dave

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by rdl » Oct 13th, '10, 21:46

togei wrote:Hello Ed,
It is green.
What kind is it?? I wasn't aware there were different types other than 1st cut, 2nd. cut, etc. This is a 2nd or 3rd cut of the tea. If you mean what species of plant, no, I don't know. Japanese green tea species perhaps?
It is interesting that even -free- bancha doesn't have a line waiting to take it.
If you would like some shipping is 780 yen by SAL, 2,200 yen by EMS. SAL takes between 2-5 weeks, EMS between 3 days and about a week. Please send me a message and I will give you details through that.
Dave
dave,
1) how would you accept payment?
2) have you had a cup? how would you describe the tea and flavor? i am as interested in knowing how your neighbors make their local bancha as i am possibly trying some myself.
thanks for your generous offer!

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by togei » Oct 13th, '10, 22:29

Hello rdl,
They make it by cutting it and then taking it back to their processing building at their house. I guess that is what you mean by how. The tea has to be processed on the day it is cut or it will start to ferment I suppose. In my area there were 3 families that grew and processed the tea. About 3 years ago through the death of one of the family members everyone quit. The tea sat fallow for about 1 year and then last year a tea growing family from about 1 km. down the road was given permission to harvest all the fields in this area. It is interesting because there has been a general move over the last 20 years or so to form cooperatives of 3-4 families. The problem is if one of the members has to quit through whatever reason usually the whole co-op quits. The guy cutting it now has never co-oped and has what used to be numerous in this area, i.e., a family run tea processing building.
As I typed this I brewed a cup for about 1-2 minutes. It has a less robust taste than the first cut of bancha but that might be a function of the brewing/amount of tea. I think it has a slightly different taste to first cut. I really like first cut bancha and drink it throughout the year. I should say I don't consider my palette highly refined.
The reason I asked the guy for the price on this tea was more out of curiosity. I didn't expect him to give me it but after he told me he would it wasn't really possible to refuse so I have this large bag of tea here.
I would like payment to my Paypal account in yen. If you would like some please contact me through the message feature and I will send you details. I will of course need your address.

Brewed for about 1-2 minutes.
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The tea.
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First cut bancha from this year, same plants.
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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by togei » Oct 13th, '10, 22:31

First cut Gyokuro cha.
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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by edkrueger » Oct 13th, '10, 23:01

I'd love to try some. By what kind I just meant was it stems or leaves, roasted or not, but I can see now. Please send me a PM about how to get the money to you. I really appreciate this, I've never gotten to try anything quite like that.

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by Chip » Oct 14th, '10, 01:02

Great deal Togei. Thanks for offering this to TCers!

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by beforewisdom » Oct 16th, '10, 18:25

I just bought my second bag of bancha twig tea.

I've been drinking about a quart of day of the tea, so I appreciate that it is lower in caffiene. I also like the taste. Even from the bulk bin at the local co-op, it still has some :).

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Re: Kukicha (Bancha Twig ) Tea and Calcium?

by Chip » Oct 16th, '10, 23:39

Togei, you could also post this under TeaSwap! :mrgreen:

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