"In search of truth," please resize your photos in photobucket to 640 pixels or less wide (500 is pretty ideal). Then post the images to TeaChat using the "Img" icon. 640 is the max size for photobucket photos.
This way we can all view your photos here.
Also ... http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=16543
Thanks.
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Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
What does the interior of the pot look like? The decorations don't tell us anything useful - and what's the white stuff on top/around the decorations? Are they glue?
Nov 26th, '11, 11:18
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Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
Could you be more clear what questions do you want to obtain from us, regarding this broken piece?
Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
The interior is the same as the exterior dark chocolate brown clay.
If there is anything specific you need to see,just ask and I'll swiftly photograph.
The Chilong Dragon and Shou character are nicely defined from the mold.
I was surprised and pleased to see the short spout was genuinely at the top and not from the middle of the pot on other examples.
Only one hole inside confirms this and there is no strainer,just one large round hole.
The 'whiteness' is similar to that on Staffordshire sprigged pieces of the period and is residue of the buff clay (whether this is Duanni I dn't know).
I understand that there were other types of Zisha clay in grey and other colours that ran out in the 18th century.
If there is anything specific you need to see,just ask and I'll swiftly photograph.
The Chilong Dragon and Shou character are nicely defined from the mold.
I was surprised and pleased to see the short spout was genuinely at the top and not from the middle of the pot on other examples.
Only one hole inside confirms this and there is no strainer,just one large round hole.
The 'whiteness' is similar to that on Staffordshire sprigged pieces of the period and is residue of the buff clay (whether this is Duanni I dn't know).
I understand that there were other types of Zisha clay in grey and other colours that ran out in the 18th century.
Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
Sorry Chip,will do so.
I wondered why I couldn't upload as attachment or img.
I wondered why I couldn't upload as attachment or img.
Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
Tim,I'm looking for similar examples in Chinese books or Museums to see how Valfrey arrived at mid 18th c date and also confirmation whether this is tea,coffee wine or beer pot.
Also,whether originally made for domestic market due to pure Chinese decoration.
It is too knackered to be repaired and is bought as a reference piece.
Also,whether originally made for domestic market due to pure Chinese decoration.
It is too knackered to be repaired and is bought as a reference piece.
Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
Well,only that picture would upload.Even when I took the others down to 400 x 400 they were rejected !!
Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
u must being doing something wrong with ur resizing app. when u tried to use as an attachment?
I resized to max allowed (after reading error message when i tried to attach the full size image) 640 pixel width.
Worked fine for me, though as u can see, looks like Chip is limiting display to only a certain size---well below max allowed attachment size.
I resized to max allowed (after reading error message when i tried to attach the full size image) 640 pixel width.
Worked fine for me, though as u can see, looks like Chip is limiting display to only a certain size---well below max allowed attachment size.
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Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
...suggest you need to contact Valfrey (Valfrey is not alive now?), or someone who knew ValfreyIn search of truth wrote:Tim,I'm looking for similar examples in Chinese books or Museums to see how Valfrey arrived at mid 18th c date and also confirmation whether this is tea,coffee wine or beer pot.
Also,whether originally made for domestic market due to pure Chinese decoration.
It is too knackered to be repaired and is bought as a reference piece.
. I don't think there are any true 'expert' with level of knowledge you seek here on TC. Only as MarshalN pointed out, some can read Chinese here on TC(don't need to be native speakers however), and might be some help...but like with English texts or others, source info can be worthless/not accurate. No easy answers I'm afraid, limited experts on this subject...as you have found. Same could be said for the field of authenticating rare wines.
Can see a time when Chinese billionaires start filing lawsuits against sellers/vendors/auction houses for negligence, etc for all these very expensive fakes advertised as real...just like is happening in the rare wine market now.
Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
I will contact Patrice Valfre (he is alive and well) and seek his opinion.
Thank you for resizing my image.
Thank you for resizing my image.
Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
reading this and then looking at the ebay page brings to mind an article about the chinese version of "Antiques Roadshow" , called "World Collection". Read the article here http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/36862 ... road-show/
I will try to hot link the auction pictures here - and sorry chip, once the ebay site removes them, they will disappear.
I will try to hot link the auction pictures here - and sorry chip, once the ebay site removes them, they will disappear.
Re: Qianlong Yixing question.
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Well,I think that the item is an Ewer,looking at this 18th c piece of Cloisonee.
Well,I think that the item is an Ewer,looking at this 18th c piece of Cloisonee.