Which Variable-Temp Electric Kettle?

[HillaryClinton]

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I know, but from what I gathered from the one I just returned the water collects on it and drips down, I know it isn't much and I am probably paranoid but cancer likes to hit my family...and I try to avoid anything possible I guess, maybe silly but yeah not gonna up the chance even if its .01 percent.

For one, I'm not sure why you think exposure to plastic is going to increase you risk or cancer at all. I'm pretty sure the Bonavita kettle's plastic is BPA free. If you are really concerned you could probably contact them and ask about BPA and other chemicals you think might cause cancer.


For two, where is your water coming from? Plastic water bottles? Tap –which has been in contact with plastic at water purification plants– through a plastic water purifier?

BPA free means absolutely nothing and was a gimmick, actually studies are finding that the thing they replaced 90% of BPA with which is BPS is just as bad or actually worse. I doubt the comapny is gonna answer me honestly, I will get a blanket reponse that says its safe because its BPA free most likely.

http://science.time.com/2011/03/08/stud ... chemicals/

http://civileats.com/2012/07/31/bpa-fre ... the-clear/

Plenty of other articles you can find with a quick google search.

Water may be something I can not help, kinda like the air I breath but I would really rather not increase the amount I put into my system, I am unsure of why this seems odd to some, I have researched pretty extensivly and yes plastics do increase cancer rates among other things, I rather limit my exposure since it kinda runs in the family.

[Chip]

I do not find it odd at all ...

However I do find that different people do have differing concerns in varying levels ... some are justified and some are not. If someone has a history of cancer in their family, they should most definitely pay very close attention to triggers. But it can be a staggering task!

I on the other hand have no family history of cancer, but I still am listening and do not put a loaded gun to my head, so to speak. However I am not as fanatical as if I had a lot of family cancer cases.

But I do have a family history of heart disease and pay closest attention to contributing factors for heart disease. So, priorities shift.

[looseTman]

1. Does the Bonavita gooseneck kettle have silicone that comes in contact with the water?

2. Are there any recommended Variable-Temp Electric Kettles from the USA, Europe, or Japan?

Thanks

1. No
2. Yes, the Bonavita.

1. Thanks for the silicone answer.
2. Per this Amazon Questions & Answers page: http://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-Variable ... B005YR0F40 the Bonavita is made in China.

[edkrueger]

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No troll food here. Move along.

[HillaryClinton]

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I know, but from what I gathered from the one I just returned the water collects on it and drips down, I know it isn't much and I am probably paranoid but cancer likes to hit my family...and I try to avoid anything possible I guess, maybe silly but yeah not gonna up the chance even if its .01 percent.

For one, I'm not sure why you think exposure to plastic is going to increase you risk or cancer at all. I'm pretty sure the Bonavita kettle's plastic is BPA free. If you are really concerned you could probably contact them and ask about BPA and other chemicals you think might cause cancer.


For two, where is your water coming from? Plastic water bottles? Tap –which has been in contact with plastic at water purification plants– through a plastic water purifier?

BPA free means absolutely nothing and was a gimmick, actually studies are finding that the thing they replaced 90% of BPA with which is BPS is just as bad or actually worse. I doubt the comapny is gonna answer me honestly, I will get a blanket reponse that says its safe because its BPA free most likely.

http://science.time.com/2011/03/08/stud ... chemicals/

http://civileats.com/2012/07/31/bpa-fre ... the-clear/

Plenty of other articles you can find with a quick google search.

Water may be something I can not help, kinda like the air I breath but I would really rather not increase the amount I put into my system, I am unsure of why this seems odd to some, I have researched pretty extensivly and yes plastics do increase cancer rates among other things, I rather limit my exposure since it kinda runs in the family.

OK... then ask them about the other chemicals... as I suggested...

"Better avoid consuming any water, I can gaurentee you won't get cancer that way "

Seems like you aren't taking me serious from what I am reading on the instant messanger thing on the side and since it seems like you missed what I wrote almost 100%. Honestly why would I contact them? I am pretty postivie that they will say its BPA free and that will be the end of the conversation(Just like every other company I ever emailed about that), I understand you not worrying about it but it seems you don't understand the worries of others and rather make jokes. I rather avoid plastic altogther at this point, you can say the one you recommended is safe till your blue in the face but doesn't excuse the fact that there is plastic inside the kettle, and people on the reviews even compalined about the smell, no thanks.

This is the internet after all, guess I should not be surprised.

[looseTman]

Silicone:
Per page two of the Amazon Questions & Answers page:

• http://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-Variable ... =newestdoc
• http://www.amazon.com/rubber-plastic-co ... B005YR0F40

the Bonavita does have some silicone inside the kettle.

[HillaryClinton]

Silicone:
Per page two of the Amazon Questions & Answers page:

• http://www.amazon.com/Bonavita-Variable ... =newestdoc
• http://www.amazon.com/rubber-plastic-co ... B005YR0F40

the Bonavita does have some silicone inside the kettle.

I am actually more concerned about the handle piece of plastic, most likely it would create condensation and the water would drip down into the kettle, at least thats what I experieced with others.

Silicone is questionable but from what I read its more stable, and is less likely to leach anything, still rather it not be there but...yeah its the regular plastic that scares me away.

[debunix]

I just don't think the companies making these variable temp kettles are considering avoidance of plastic in their designs at all--they put metal in where heating elements and hot water would melt the inexpensive consumer grade plastics they use in other parts of the device. If someone were making one with avoidance of plastic in mind, I'm sure they'd be advertising it with that in mind.

So....it's either the variable temp kettles with plastic fittings above the water line, but where water will condense and run down, or a stove top or boil-only kettle.

I choose the variable temp kettles and their small plastic component, but there abundant posts here regarding traditional ways to learn the temperature of your stove-top kettle by listening and looking at the bubbles so that you can estimate temps quite accurately; or using various non-plastic cooling vessels to drop water temp between kettle and teapot.

[looseTman]

The following articles may be of interest, but it appears that only one of the models is a variable-temp: Aroma AWK-290BD (5-presets as opposed to one that has a digital thermostat).

Plastic-free: http://www.electriccordlesswaterkettle. ... e-kettles/
BPA-Free: http://www.electriccordlesswaterkettle. ... e-kettles/

[Evan Draper]

Thats interesting because I thought of using some sort of hot plate or induction plate and a kettle as I was looking for tea kettles but none of the plates I found really met what I wanted for a decent price. Is this a bad thing though, it basically being a stove top design?

Yeah, if you are concerned about plastic I would just go with a glass kettle. I have one without the goofy graphics, and I use it on an inexpensive hot plate inside, and an inexpensive camping stove outside. And I think you can just use a metal ring to make it compatible with an induction cooker, right? If you are decisive about learning to prepare tea without a variable-temperature-setting, you will succeed in short order and then never miss it.

[HillaryClinton]

Thats interesting because I thought of using some sort of hot plate or induction plate and a kettle as I was looking for tea kettles but none of the plates I found really met what I wanted for a decent price. Is this a bad thing though, it basically being a stove top design?

Yeah, if you are concerned about plastic I would just go with a glass kettle. I have one without the goofy graphics, and I use it on an inexpensive hot plate inside, and an inexpensive camping stove outside. And I think you can just use a metal ring to make it compatible with an induction cooker, right? If you are decisive about learning to prepare tea without a variable-temperature-setting, you will succeed in short order and then never miss it.

Seems like it might be my best bet, oh well, it was worth a shot trying to find one, maybe in the future I guess.

Thanks everyone besides edkrueger who basically called me a troll even though he was the one who seemed to be trolling.

[Chip]

Thanks everyone besides edkrueger who basically called me a troll even though he was the one who seemed to be trolling.

We shall put him to the troll test, tie him up and let the dawn's light hit him. If he turns to stone, then we know he is a troll ... and problem solved.

However, more likely he will slice the ropes that bind him with his bladed finger gloves ... he is more of the Freddy Krueger type, don't you think

[Poohblah]

+1 for the Middle Earth reference

Ed has a knack for feeding the trolls and egging others on So I guess he's kind of a troll? But he's a kind troll.

[GuyWan]

I ordered the Bonavita variable temperature gooseneck kettle but the temperature control did not work properly so I am now waiting for the replacement to arrive. I really liked the way it felt in my hand and how it poured though.

[teaisme]

The two kamjove I have used had no plastic but did seem to have some strange black specs coming from the spout for about 20 cycles of boiling water. I imagine it was the Bakelite outer coating residuals for when they layered the outside surface and some got coated into the spout. Weld seams are in the middle, which I also think could contribute to potential tainting of water, and heating element is raised but no plastic. a good whiff of the steam when the kettle is boiling gives me reason to believe that most electric kettles available add a certain something in one way or another. however I have used very cheap kettles from india and slightly expensive taiwan ones that did not have these issues, stainless 100% on the inside.

hot plates are good for holding temp after the kettle has boiled on the stove. Not recommended for boiling at the start. I wouldn't doubt there is a great electric amercan branded kettle out there, but in my mind it would either be a 5-10 yr old disscontinued model or something in the range of 80-100 bucks. At that point you could just buy a really nice half glazed ceramic kettle for the stove and not worry much about tainted water or electric components failing. Portability and whether you are willing to spend an extra 5-10 mins during a tea session then become the deciding factors on whether to go stove top or electric. If all you want is to enjoy tea at home I would go stove. Cheap route is glass yama kettle 30 bucks. Fancier would be a nice ceramic like lins kettle or a tetsubin though some gambling is involved when getting a tetsu from what I have read.