Is there one teapot suitable for most chinese tea?

[Tead Off]

Did you ever stumble upon an Hong Kong online tea shop? No.

www.teahong.com

An excellent source for many different kinds of Chinese as well as other teas. The owner is a knowledgeable tea person.

[gunbuster363]

Did you ever stumble upon an Hong Kong online tea shop? No.

http://www.teahong.com

An excellent source for many different kinds of Chinese as well as other teas. The owner is a knowledgeable tea person.

Interesting. I would try their tea next time!

[gunbuster363]

i am wondering, if you don't buy teapot from china, where will you buy it? UK or Thailand?

Japan

[JRS22]

Did you ever stumble upon an Hong Kong online tea shop? No.

http://www.teahong.com

An excellent source for many different kinds of Chinese as well as other teas. The owner is a knowledgeable tea person.

I like the motto:

We fear not of comparison; but of ignorance.

I might try their TPHK.

[theredbaron]

Good to see you posting again, Red Baron.

I posted a comment expressing much of the same reaction & given an answer.

Life is funny. Sometimes one posts a question that one that one cannot easily find an answer to; yet, he gets no help. Sometimes one posts a ? w/ an obvious answer or one that is easily found; yet, people really go to work on it.

Thanks.
I have had some really difficult times these past 8 months, and wasn't really in the mood of chitchatting here or anywhere. Drunk massive amounts of tea though...

[theredbaron]

From these 2 teapot which one do you think best? I've order some dancong and wuyi oolong ( waiting for shipment ) and various green/white tea from other vendor.

The website said the turret teapot pour fast, however, what kind of filter does it has? If there are no filter, the tea leaves might come out along the tea if it has a wide opening.


https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product ... er-teapot/

https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product/modern-teapot/

I have followed this thread for a while now, and i have to say that i am somewhat bewildered. You live in Hongkong, one of the best tea places in the world, and yet you order tea on the web, and ask opinions on cheap and mediocre tea pots that will deliver a brew equal to any mass market pot you can get in any department store.
I would suggest to contact some of the forum members who live in Hongkong as well, and maybe they could direct you to a tea store in Hongkong which is less unfriendly. It has been almost 20 years since i was last in Hongkong, and am well aware that Hongkong is not exactly famous for politeness. But nevertheless, i have walked into quite a few tea stores which were very friendly and helpful.
I comment basically as i feel that you have a great opportunity here to properly learn how to enjoy Chinese tea, in place with many tea masters, experts and students, but miss out on all this.

Hi, thanks for the long reply and I have something to say about this.

Why do you think Hong Kong is one of the best place for tea? I assume when you said tea you mean Chinese tea. It is assumed that because of the close proximity of China and Hong Kong, many great tea would be distributed in Hong Kong, I agree.

There is a culture of drinking tea in Hong Kong, however, most of the people living in Hong Kong are easily satisfied with cheap puerh/TGY. The good stuff are only in the circle of the tea masters. And the tea masters in Hong Kong do not go out to the world and promote their tea, say, create an online store. Did you ever stumble upon an Hong Kong online tea shop? No.

Real tea in Hong Kong is expensive because the tea master value the tea a lot and also because of the expensive rent of the store. I think the price doesn't really reflect the value of the tea so I set out to the world.

I would not buy Yixing in Hong Kong. Many fake Yixing came from China. Real Yixing is really expensive. Also you don't know how to identify real Yixing. You should not trust the merchant because it is their nature to trick you. I don't trust Chinese at all.


The reason that I would like to use that teapot because they less likely to contain toxin except the PC part. I would ultimately replace the teapot with other neutral material such as porcelain but I am not going to buy it from Chinese merchant.

It's already a sad situation because Chinese come from China. Anyway, I still have a choice over the teapot.

I would take a day off and check out the local store and report to you anyway because many of you think they are great. But I have to stress this, the price also factors in the rent.

Really, I lived my life in Hong Kong and I KNOW about them.

Not trusting Chinese at all is a bit wide sweeping...
But basically, if it were not for the Chinese, the world - and that includes Japan, India, etc - would not have any tea at all. It was Chinese a few thousand years ago who started to develop tea.

No true tea master will go out to world aggressively promoting their art. Be wary of fake tea masters. Be wary of of tea masters being mostly busy in the tea business and trying to sell you their products.

But a good tea master will teach you about tea, so that you do not need to be scared anymore about being cheated. Who says that internet shops are great places to buy tea? The vast majority of internet stores sell inferior and mediocre teas, and at times OK teas. Rarely will you get top quality teas from internet stores.

In Hong Kong you will have the opportunity to get involved in serious tea circles. There you can learn more than you ever could on internet forums, and about tea pots as well. Sooner or later people will help you to find good Yixing pots for a price you can afford. Maybe somebody will even present you with a good pot.

But for this, i fear you have to start learning to trust that people are just people, and that includes Chinese people as well. And when it comes to Chinese tea, well, the best sources for tea, equipment and knowledge are Chinese people, naturally.

[Teaism]

theredbaron,

Nice to hear from you again. Lots of wise words coming out from your haitus. Well done!

Have a great day my friend.

Cheers!

[theredbaron]

Thank you

[gunbuster363]

From these 2 teapot which one do you think best? I've order some dancong and wuyi oolong ( waiting for shipment ) and various green/white tea from other vendor.

The website said the turret teapot pour fast, however, what kind of filter does it has? If there are no filter, the tea leaves might come out along the tea if it has a wide opening.


https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product ... er-teapot/

https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product/modern-teapot/

I have followed this thread for a while now, and i have to say that i am somewhat bewildered. You live in Hongkong, one of the best tea places in the world, and yet you order tea on the web, and ask opinions on cheap and mediocre tea pots that will deliver a brew equal to any mass market pot you can get in any department store.
I would suggest to contact some of the forum members who live in Hongkong as well, and maybe they could direct you to a tea store in Hongkong which is less unfriendly. It has been almost 20 years since i was last in Hongkong, and am well aware that Hongkong is not exactly famous for politeness. But nevertheless, i have walked into quite a few tea stores which were very friendly and helpful.
I comment basically as i feel that you have a great opportunity here to properly learn how to enjoy Chinese tea, in place with many tea masters, experts and students, but miss out on all this.

Hi, thanks for the long reply and I have something to say about this.

Why do you think Hong Kong is one of the best place for tea? I assume when you said tea you mean Chinese tea. It is assumed that because of the close proximity of China and Hong Kong, many great tea would be distributed in Hong Kong, I agree.

There is a culture of drinking tea in Hong Kong, however, most of the people living in Hong Kong are easily satisfied with cheap puerh/TGY. The good stuff are only in the circle of the tea masters. And the tea masters in Hong Kong do not go out to the world and promote their tea, say, create an online store. Did you ever stumble upon an Hong Kong online tea shop? No.

Real tea in Hong Kong is expensive because the tea master value the tea a lot and also because of the expensive rent of the store. I think the price doesn't really reflect the value of the tea so I set out to the world.

I would not buy Yixing in Hong Kong. Many fake Yixing came from China. Real Yixing is really expensive. Also you don't know how to identify real Yixing. You should not trust the merchant because it is their nature to trick you. I don't trust Chinese at all.


The reason that I would like to use that teapot because they less likely to contain toxin except the PC part. I would ultimately replace the teapot with other neutral material such as porcelain but I am not going to buy it from Chinese merchant.

It's already a sad situation because Chinese come from China. Anyway, I still have a choice over the teapot.

I would take a day off and check out the local store and report to you anyway because many of you think they are great. But I have to stress this, the price also factors in the rent.

Really, I lived my life in Hong Kong and I KNOW about them.

Not trusting Chinese at all is a bit wide sweeping...
But basically, if it were not for the Chinese, the world - and that includes Japan, India, etc - would not have any tea at all. It was Chinese a few thousand years ago who started to develop tea.

No true tea master will go out to world aggressively promoting their art. Be wary of fake tea masters. Be wary of of tea masters being mostly busy in the tea business and trying to sell you their products.

But a good tea master will teach you about tea, so that you do not need to be scared anymore about being cheated. Who says that internet shops are great places to buy tea? The vast majority of internet stores sell inferior and mediocre teas, and at times OK teas. Rarely will you get top quality teas from internet stores.

In Hong Kong you will have the opportunity to get involved in serious tea circles. There you can learn more than you ever could on internet forums, and about tea pots as well. Sooner or later people will help you to find good Yixing pots for a price you can afford. Maybe somebody will even present you with a good pot.

But for this, i fear you have to start learning to trust that people are just people, and that includes Chinese people as well. And when it comes to Chinese tea, well, the best sources for tea, equipment and knowledge are Chinese people, naturally.

Sadly I would not trust them, not in my life.

You may had went to Hong Kong or China once or several times, but I have been living in a Chinese society for my whole life. In regards of the Chinese topic, I would not discuss it here.

I am afraid you have a wrong understanding towards the Chinese today and I would like to say that the Chinese who developed tea a thousand years ago are not the Chinese we are facing now. They are not of the same race and you need to read the history book. Not every Chinese - I mean 1.3 billions of people - know very well about tea. I admit there are some amazing tea masters but they would not sell you good tea easily.

Despite all said above, I think there ARE Hongkongers ( not Chinese ) who knows about tea in Hong Kong and it may take me some time to seek them out. Also they would not sell you good tea easily.

Sometimes it is easier to just buy random tea/teapot over the internet and see if they are good.

[kyarazen]

are you ethnic chinese yourself or a "lao-wai"?

buying random tea on the internet, the seller will probably have had gotten it from china anyway.. since the leaves dont grow elsewhere, and the wares are.. cheap to manufacture in mainland

Hi, thanks for the long reply and I have something to say about this.

Why do you think Hong Kong is one of the best place for tea? I assume when you said tea you mean Chinese tea. It is assumed that because of the close proximity of China and Hong Kong, many great tea would be distributed in Hong Kong, I agree.

There is a culture of drinking tea in Hong Kong, however, most of the people living in Hong Kong are easily satisfied with cheap puerh/TGY. The good stuff are only in the circle of the tea masters. And the tea masters in Hong Kong do not go out to the world and promote their tea, say, create an online store. Did you ever stumble upon an Hong Kong online tea shop? No.

Real tea in Hong Kong is expensive because the tea master value the tea a lot and also because of the expensive rent of the store. I think the price doesn't really reflect the value of the tea so I set out to the world.

I would not buy Yixing in Hong Kong. Many fake Yixing came from China. Real Yixing is really expensive. Also you don't know how to identify real Yixing. You should not trust the merchant because it is their nature to trick you. I don't trust Chinese at all.


The reason that I would like to use that teapot because they less likely to contain toxin except the PC part. I would ultimately replace the teapot with other neutral material such as porcelain but I am not going to buy it from Chinese merchant.

It's already a sad situation because Chinese come from China. Anyway, I still have a choice over the teapot.

I would take a day off and check out the local store and report to you anyway because many of you think they are great. But I have to stress this, the price also factors in the rent.

Really, I lived my life in Hong Kong and I KNOW about them.

Not trusting Chinese at all is a bit wide sweeping...
But basically, if it were not for the Chinese, the world - and that includes Japan, India, etc - would not have any tea at all. It was Chinese a few thousand years ago who started to develop tea.

No true tea master will go out to world aggressively promoting their art. Be wary of fake tea masters. Be wary of of tea masters being mostly busy in the tea business and trying to sell you their products.

But a good tea master will teach you about tea, so that you do not need to be scared anymore about being cheated. Who says that internet shops are great places to buy tea? The vast majority of internet stores sell inferior and mediocre teas, and at times OK teas. Rarely will you get top quality teas from internet stores.

In Hong Kong you will have the opportunity to get involved in serious tea circles. There you can learn more than you ever could on internet forums, and about tea pots as well. Sooner or later people will help you to find good Yixing pots for a price you can afford. Maybe somebody will even present you with a good pot.

But for this, i fear you have to start learning to trust that people are just people, and that includes Chinese people as well. And when it comes to Chinese tea, well, the best sources for tea, equipment and knowledge are Chinese people, naturally.[/quote]

Sadly I would not trust them, not in my life.

You may had went to Hong Kong or China once or several times, but I have been living in a Chinese society for my whole life. In regards of the Chinese topic, I would not discuss it here.

I am afraid you have a wrong understanding towards the Chinese today and I would like to say that the Chinese who developed tea a thousand years ago are not the Chinese we are facing now. They are not of the same race and you need to read the history book. Not every Chinese - I mean 1.3 billions of people - know very well about tea. I admit there are some amazing tea masters but they would not sell you good tea easily.

Despite all said above, I think there ARE Hongkongers ( not Chinese ) who knows about tea in Hong Kong and it may take me some time to seek them out. Also they would not sell you good tea easily.

Sometimes it is easier to just buy random tea/teapot over the internet and see if they are good.[/quote]

[gunbuster363]

are you ethnic chinese yourself or a "lao-wai"?

buying random tea on the internet, the seller will probably have had gotten it from china anyway.. since the leaves dont grow elsewhere, and the wares are.. cheap to manufacture in mainland

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

people often ask "what side you are on" or "where did you come from" and these questions are not related to the topic.

Fact 1: Chinese use too much pesticide on crops.
Fact 2: There are fake yixing everywhere in China.
Fact 3: Many Chinese are swindlers.

Given all the above facts does not mean that I have to accept whatever the Chinese are offering. You might have been drinking pesticide and don't even know about it. Anyway if I have to buy Chinese tea/teapot, I will pick the tea/teapot carefully.

After all the above discussion/flame, I might just buy a Japanese porcelain teapot such as this one:

http://shop.ippodo-tea.co.jp/kyoto/shop ... d=utensils

It is small but I am sure of the origin is not from Chinese factory.

[BW85]

Fact 1: Chinese use too much pesticide on crops.
Fact 2: There are fake yixing everywhere in China.
Fact 3: Many Chinese are swindlers.

A lot of the world uses too many agro chemicals.
There are fake designer bags/clothing/sunglasses, fake works of art, etc etc all over the world.
There are cheaters and swindlers, crooks and liars all over the world. In my home town and yours. Luckily it's not limited to one country

... And that's all I have to say about that. Peace

[daidokorocha]

One has to admit that the market for fakes (reproductions!) is quite rampant in China. Their dedication to reproduction is astounding! I must say, most "fake" things are quite easy to spot but the "fakes" industry produces plenty of nice quality items that I think are unfairly maligned. I'm not talking about teapots or anything, as I don't quite have experience with those goods in that sort of market, but other goods and services provided by the bountiful Chinese reproduction market that really are quality products in their own right.

[kyarazen]

华人之心，非华人也摸不透，是华人也非了解
(chinese heart, non-chinese cannot feel clear, even if chinese, also may not understand)

the ippodo pot is quite nice, like the description goes at the end :
"You will enjoy it for the rest of your life.", sounds like the only pot you will ever need!

cheers.

[theredbaron]

Sadly I would not trust them, not in my life.

You may had went to Hong Kong or China once or several times, but I have been living in a Chinese society for my whole life. In regards of the Chinese topic, I would not discuss it here.

I am afraid you have a wrong understanding towards the Chinese today and I would like to say that the Chinese who developed tea a thousand years ago are not the Chinese we are facing now. They are not of the same race and you need to read the history book. Not every Chinese - I mean 1.3 billions of people - know very well about tea. I admit there are some amazing tea masters but they would not sell you good tea easily.

Despite all said above, I think there ARE Hongkongers ( not Chinese ) who knows about tea in Hong Kong and it may take me some time to seek them out. Also they would not sell you good tea easily.

Sometimes it is easier to just buy random tea/teapot over the internet and see if they are good.

And i may suggest that you do not mistake me for a sinophile westerner sitting in a NY or London loft. As you may see from my location - Bangkok. And i am now well into my third decade living in Asia, which has given me quite a good understanding of humanity, the different cultures, and the utter futility of bringing race into the equation (and, to be honest, given that my son is half Chinese - i do find some of your comments quite offensive in a rather personal way, and not just to be politically/sociologically/anthropologically/historically correct).

Anyhow, who says that it should be easy to approach tea masters? If you have a serious interest they will help you along. And the experience will more more than rewarding. But that needs an attitude that is a bit more, lets say, conductive...

Why on earth, by the way, do you ask for a pot to drink tea from a country that you seem to detest, whose people you distrust?

The Chinese tea you buy over an internet store has been grown and planted in China the same way tea you would buy in a shop in Hong Kong.