Help identifying a few cakes

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by Nighttrain » Feb 13th, '16, 09:01

Thanks! Not inexpensive is right... I'll keep an eye out for Lao ban'e samples for now, but seems like generally bulang-area and Lincang might be my sweet spots?

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by Nighttrain » Feb 13th, '16, 09:40

Also: when would the earliest spring 2016 pu start showing up online? Would those be the most bitter?

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by mr mopu » Feb 13th, '16, 12:41

Nighttrain wrote:Also: when would the earliest spring 2016 pu start showing up online? Would those be the most bitter?
Pre-ming tea would probably be picked in march or April. The tea harvested may be available in April or thereafter.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by PurplePotato » Feb 13th, '16, 19:17

Perhaps you'd like kuding cha? Not a puer, or even a camellia for that matter, but I've herd it's intensely bitter. You might also find YS's Xin Ban Zhang to your liking. I really enjoyed a sample of it, but not quite enough to plop down for a cake.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by stevorama » Feb 15th, '16, 11:32

PurplePotato wrote:Perhaps you'd like kuding cha? Not a puer, or even a camellia for that matter, but I've herd it's intensely bitter.
Intensely bitter indeed! A pure bitter. With sweet after. I have a couple kinds (in spike and ball form) that I got out of curiosity. Not my cup of tea so to speak, but interesting.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by bellmont » Feb 16th, '16, 14:47

mr mopu wrote:
Nighttrain wrote:Also: when would the earliest spring 2016 pu start showing up online? Would those be the most bitter?
Pre-ming tea would probably be picked in march or April. The tea harvested may be available in April or thereafter.
Well if your misty peaks then any week now ;)

anyway,

I have had pretty decent experiences sampling Tea Urchin's own pressings from 2011-2014, if you can front the cash earlier in your puerh education then I'd grab a few Tea Urchin samples to compare to chawang and YS.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by Nighttrain » Feb 16th, '16, 16:25

thanks! Tea Urchin, White 2 Tea and Crimson Lotus are next on my to try list. I want a better idea of what I like before I order from Tea Urchin because their shipping is so expensive.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by Exempt » Feb 16th, '16, 17:42

mr mopu wrote:
Nighttrain wrote:no - what is Luo Man'e?
It's a different are that tea is produced from. Some say it is akin to turpentine.
Here is one I sampled a while back. Not an inexpensive tea for sure.
http://teaurchin.com/shop-for-tea/puer/ ... pring.html
I love strong, bitter teas and the Teaurchin Lao man' e used to be to die for. I purchased their 2012 Lao man' e cake, as well as a half kilo of the 2012 lao man' e ku cha moacha. Half the kilo has been airtight and half has been open in my pumidor. Haven't tried their more recent lao man'e but if it's anything like the old stuff it's worth buying.

Their lao ban zhang also used to be very good, if you like strong bulangs. I'm not sure if they still offer any, but I picked up a 100g of 2011 lao ban zhang maocha from them that's the best LBZ I've tasted. Still have 80 grams or so

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by Nighttrain » Feb 17th, '16, 10:31

thanks! Lao Man'e seems right down my alley - will be grabbing a sample when I give Tea Urchin a try - or if any of the other shops snag some soon.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by Nighttrain » Feb 18th, '16, 19:52

Is there such a thing as a tea with Lao Man'e "character" without the associated price tag?

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by shah82 » Feb 18th, '16, 19:57

All you have to do is get a cheap factory tea and overbrew it. Voila, bitterness.

If you want the better sort of bitterness, you have to pay for it.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by Nighttrain » Feb 18th, '16, 20:10

Ya ya ya - I'm thinking more are there regions nearby, not as well know, that might also have that turpentine taste but without the price tag associated with the Lao Man'e name - I'm not talking cheap, just less than $150

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by mr mopu » Feb 18th, '16, 20:14

Nighttrain wrote:Ya ya ya - I'm thinking more are there regions nearby, not as well know, that might also have that turpentine taste but without the price tag associated with the Lao Man'e name - I'm not talking cheap, just less than $150
You could always split a cake with someone. Shah is right , the good stuff does cost. The New Amerykah from White2Tea has some bitterness but nowhere like the Lao Man E.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by shah82 » Feb 18th, '16, 20:25

$150 is fine. You just have to find someone willing to press very bitter teas.

Go for the YunnanSourcing Jie Liang cakes as substitutes. Grab a sample and see if that sort of bitterness works for you.

$150 is also plenty enough to get sophisticated light bitterness found in better Mengku teas like Mushucha at YS, again.

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Re: Help identifying a few cakes

by Nighttrain » Feb 18th, '16, 20:55

Pretty sure I'm going to pony up for the Tea Urchin Lao Man'e 2015 - unless someone else comes out with one in the meantime

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