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by olivierco » Sep 7th, '08, 05:02
7oz is too big for Gyokuro I think.
You could use it for sencha but you will have to be careful because it might be too hot to handle.
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by britt » Sep 7th, '08, 07:10
I don't own that one but I do have a similar one from Artistic Nippon. I purchased it as a set with two cups and a wooden tray. The teapot is still available but the set is not. This pot differs a little from the Rishi. Instead of a removable stainless basket it has a clay sasame filter built into the lid. This pot is extremely thin and lightweight and it does a great job with sencha. It's a bit quirky with the filter placement and no handle, but I like it. It's a bit large for gyokuro, but it is also tall where most gyokuro pots are wider and lower.
Tokoname teapot Chaho - Kokudei kushime $58.00
There are two others available at Artistic Nippon. I have not used these two.
Tokoname teapot Chaho - Sansai $58.00
Tokoname teapot Chaho - Yakishime Hana-obi $73.00

Sep 9th, '08, 09:58
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by Salsero » Sep 9th, '08, 09:58
OK, what's the difference between a hohin and a shiboridashi? BTW, I got the tentative price list from Tokoname Yuyaku. It's a JPEG file. If anyone else wants it, send me your email address and I will forward it to you.
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by olivierco » Sep 9th, '08, 11:11
For me the difference is the following:
Hohin:
Shiboridashi:

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by Salsero » Sep 9th, '08, 11:59
Thanks, Olivierco. I am getting the impression that the difference is subtle. I did a bit of googling and got mostly conversations in O-Cha and TeaChat! I'm wondering if the shiboridashi are simpler, closer to just a bowl, and the hohin have more additions, like spout or decoration and can be taller.
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by Pentox » Sep 9th, '08, 12:06
From what I have seen between a shiborodashi and a hohin is that a shiborodashi is flatter with no distinct separation filter. Instead it has the "teeth" and functions more akin to a gaiwan. A hohin on the other hand has the very distinctive upside down nose shaped spout on the outside of a built in filter. They also tend to be taller in relationship to a shiborodashi.
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by Salsero » Sep 10th, '08, 15:17


The little pot arrived today and it is much cuter than I expected. The Hankook photo above does not do it justice. It is ceramic but still appealling to a guy like me that is sometimes a little put off by ceramic. It holds 3.25 oz or 92 ml of water with no gyokuro leaf, so with 5 gr or more of leaf in there, it will make a virtual gong fu of gyokuro. It is clearly on the small side, good thing I am looking at a hohin and and a shiboridashi that are larger. If you want small and darling, this Chip-endorsed pot is the pot for you. If you want larger, there are larger ones on the site. Cost with shipping: $37.00.
I will try to get a TeaDay photo of it up tomorrow or Friday
Sep 10th, '08, 15:44
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by olivierco » Sep 10th, '08, 15:44
Very tempting...
Sep 10th, '08, 15:48
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by Chip » Sep 10th, '08, 15:48
BTW, Sal, I usually brew 2 ounces of water, which will then fill the cup once. Otherwise, you will need another device to decant into.
Expect some leaf particles to get through, but I like this with gyokuro. I just brewed Tencha and a lot of particles come through, but it does not bother me. But since Tencha floats, it is more of an issue.
I love these little Korean gems for gyokuro. They are somewhat "artisan."
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!
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by Salsero » Sep 10th, '08, 16:12
Chip wrote:
I love these little Korean gems for gyokuro. They are somewhat "artisan."
"
Little Korean gems," yeppers.
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by Chip » Sep 10th, '08, 16:37
Don't look, Sal!!! Too late!
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!
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by Salsero » Sep 10th, '08, 18:39
Chip wrote: Don't look, Sal!!! Too late!
Holy cow!

I thought the Japanese were marketing geniuses, but this is a lethal level of beauty!
Sep 11th, '08, 21:24
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by andy825 » Sep 11th, '08, 21:24
Agreed! Those are totally droolworthy. Its a good thing I can't read that language, and have no idea how much that stuff costs, or I'd be in real trouble!
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by orguz » Sep 11th, '08, 22:18
I don't have any japanese teaware, but I got this link when checking my Gmail.
http://www.japanesehandcraft.com/index.html
Clicked on the Kazuo Nakata link and it displayed this beautiful sake cup, I'd use it for tea if I had one.
I assume Japanese teaware fans know this site or the potter. Would like to hear your comments regarding this sites products or even the potters.
Thanks,