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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by William » Apr 3rd, '17, 08:56

jayinhk wrote:
William wrote:
jayinhk wrote: Drinking farm direct Anxi tieguanyin (green) in a vintage Factory 1 duanni houhin for the Japanese market. Wow, this clay works amazingly well with this tea and really brings out the aroma, while making the tea smooth and light. An almost milk-like character to this TGY. Really good stuff and far better than the cheap stuff, which is pretty much undrinkable!
How do you handle the houhin?
I mean, using boiling water, the houhin should become extremely hot ..
Longer infusions and I hold it near the top. It's hot, but bearable
I see, thanks for explaining! :D

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by dizzo » Apr 3rd, '17, 15:24

On the fourth steep of "Drawer" that I received from Ethan. This is heavier roast for me. I am having trouble tasting through it, but the aroma is wonderful. I did 5 grams in 100 ml gaiwan. Perhaps a few more steeps will take away some of the charcoal.

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by ethan » Apr 3rd, '17, 19:06

dizzo wrote: On the fourth steep of "Drawer" that I received from Ethan. This is heavier roast for me. I am having trouble tasting through it, but the aroma is wonderful. I did 5 grams in 100 ml gaiwan. Perhaps a few more steeps will take away some of the charcoal.
I am using about 3 grams for 100 ml. Lately I have been happiest w/ rather quick steeping, about 20 seconds in water at 95C for 1st & second infusions & about 30 seconds for 3rd & 4th. The unglazed insides of my new pot definitely makes the charcoal taste smoother & more enjoyable but does not bring out the other flavors. Sometimes these other flavors can be somewhat distinct but usually sort of bind to the roast. I feel them more in the aftertaste.

This Drawer 2 & 2 other teas from Dr. Chen are said to be a 40% roast which I take to mean medium-roasted but seem heavier in the roasting than that to me. I've come around to liking the Drawer 2 a lot more lately as I've abandoned thinking about flavors I tasted before or expect to taste & just enjoy what comes--which I can do w/ the quicker steeping & the right teaware keeping the char mellow enough.

I've flash-brewed w/ 6 grams per 100ml & concluded I was wasting tea, since it did not taste much different than flash-brewing 3 grams per 100ml. I do like the result but prefer the slightly longer steeping times.

All 3 of the 40% roasted & the heavier roasted High Roller & Father's Love oolongs from Dr. Chen have presented a few distinct, enjoyable flavors for some rounds & at other times give a more blended yet dynamic session. Before I found a better pot for them, I was happiest using celadon at lower temperature, but sometimes the taste of roast was much too dominant. It's a bit of a mystery, but teaches me to vary temperature & time & teaware until I find my way.

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by JB-ONE » Apr 3rd, '17, 21:59

Drinking amazingly good Laocong Shuixian and Rou Gui from Cindy Chen of Wuyiorigin. I think this is my favorite yancha so far. Smooth, sweet salivating aftertaste. This tea also lasts for a lot more infusions than I normally get.
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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by jayinhk » Apr 3rd, '17, 22:40

Finishing off the TGY today, still in the duanni houhin. Nice berry flavor from the tea and smooth, even with long infusions. The houhin has been used for a darker tea (hojicha?) and I don't know if I can scrub the stains off, but it sure does make great tea!

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by William » Apr 4th, '17, 06:31

JB-ONE wrote: Drinking amazingly good Laocong Shuixian and Rou Gui from Cindy Chen of Wuyiorigin. I think this is my favorite yancha so far. Smooth, sweet salivating aftertaste. This tea also lasts for a lot more infusions than I normally get.

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Such a nice setup! :D

I will make my order from C. Chen soon, any advice?

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by JB-ONE » Apr 4th, '17, 08:36

William wrote:
JB-ONE wrote: Drinking amazingly good Laocong Shuixian and Rou Gui from Cindy Chen of Wuyiorigin. I think this is my favorite yancha so far. Smooth, sweet salivating aftertaste. This tea also lasts for a lot more infusions than I normally get.

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Such a nice setup! :D

I will make my order from C. Chen soon, any advice?
Thanks William!
I really like the Laocong Shuixian. I must have got at least 8 infusions of out it last night. The Rou Gui is really good. I kinda regret not getting more of that (only had a sample) and the Shui jin gui I really liked - more on the floral side though. I haven't tried the Danchong sample yet.

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by William » Apr 4th, '17, 09:44

JB-ONE wrote: Thanks William!
I really like the Laocong Shuixian. I must have got at least 8 infusions of out it last night. The Rou Gui is really good. I kinda regret not getting more of that (only had a sample) and the Shui jin gui I really liked - more on the floral side though. I haven't tried the Danchong sample yet.
Good to know, thanks! Those you mentioned will surely be on my shopping list! :D
I think I will buy a bunch of samples in order to see what I like the most .. :lol:
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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by dizzo » Apr 4th, '17, 09:47

ethan wrote:
dizzo wrote: On the fourth steep of "Drawer" that I received from Ethan. This is heavier roast for me. I am having trouble tasting through it, but the aroma is wonderful. I did 5 grams in 100 ml gaiwan. Perhaps a few more steeps will take away some of the charcoal.
I am using about 3 grams for 100 ml. Lately I have been happiest w/ rather quick steeping, about 20 seconds in water at 95C for 1st & second infusions & about 30 seconds for 3rd & 4th. The unglazed insides of my new pot definitely makes the charcoal taste smoother & more enjoyable but does not bring out the other flavors. Sometimes these other flavors can be somewhat distinct but usually sort of bind to the roast. I feel them more in the aftertaste.

This Drawer 2 & 2 other teas from Dr. Chen are said to be a 40% roast which I take to mean medium-roasted but seem heavier in the roasting than that to me. I've come around to liking the Drawer 2 a lot more lately as I've abandoned thinking about flavors I tasted before or expect to taste & just enjoy what comes--which I can do w/ the quicker steeping & the right teaware keeping the char mellow enough.

I've flash-brewed w/ 6 grams per 100ml & concluded I was wasting tea, since it did not taste much different than flash-brewing 3 grams per 100ml. I do like the result but prefer the slightly longer steeping times.

All 3 of the 40% roasted & the heavier roasted High Roller & Father's Love oolongs from Dr. Chen have presented a few distinct, enjoyable flavors for some rounds & at other times give a more blended yet dynamic session. Before I found a better pot for them, I was happiest using celadon at lower temperature, but sometimes the taste of roast was much too dominant. It's a bit of a mystery, but teaches me to vary temperature & time & teaware until I find my way.
Thanks for the suggestions! I will try a little less leaf and a hair shorter steep time. Perhaps I can also use this as an excuse to buy my first yixing:)

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by ethan » Apr 4th, '17, 11:00

dizzo wrote:
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dizzo wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions! I will try a little less leaf and a hair shorter steep time. Perhaps I can also use this as an excuse to buy my first yixing:)
So, you already know that you will buy more than one yixing. I had thought that my "first" would be my "only". Cheers

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by victoria3 » Apr 4th, '17, 13:05

Putting in another big order with Hau Ying Chen via his facebook account. His roasted oolongs are the most refined I've had so far. This weekend I had Té company's Frozen Summit Reserve roasted DongDing and it didn't stand a chance next to his, less complexity and depth on the nose and palate (Té company's Pear Mountain LiShan is very good though; buttery, smooth, sweet w/ high mineral content). I've had a few days to keep adding +++ to my order with HY Chen since it is a 4 day holiday in Taiwan. He has new 25gr sample packs also and is offering Factory 1 pots;
Roasted High Mountain Oolong
Charcoal Medium Roasted Dongding- June & Winter
Charcoal Medium Roasted Hundred Garden- Fall & Winter + Heavy Roast
Charcoal (carbon) Roasted DaYuLin Spring
ShanLinXi Oolong
LiShan
LiShan Primitive Wild Forest (organic) Winter

Hopefully this will last a while.....

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by William » Apr 4th, '17, 17:26

Some unroasted 2016 Li Shan for breakfast .. smooth, buttery, sugary, so lovely!
Fortunately, spring is coming .. I almost finished my Gaoshan stash! :oops: :D

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by ethan » Apr 4th, '17, 18:30

Victoria, I have a ? for you about those tea & am sending it in PM to you. (To avoid upsetting someone & being called a troll)

Sounds like you really love those teas. Cheers

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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by victoria3 » Apr 4th, '17, 18:43

ethan wrote: Victoria, I have a ? for you about those tea & am sending it in PM to you. (To avoid upsetting someone & being called a troll)

Sounds like you really love those teas. Cheers
Yes I really appreciate the level of skill and care taken. I'm still looking for a buttery smooth full mouth feel LiShan that's not crazy expensive. Floating Leaves has top quality $$$, Te company very high quality $$$, and I'm now trying Thomas Shu (Taiwan Ambassador of Tea to USA) JT&Tea fruity and flowery LiShan $$1/2. The Flowery LiShan won an award in Japan, it's pretty good commercial grade.
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Re: Official what Oolong are You Drinking Right Now?

by ethan » Apr 4th, '17, 19:22

I may have tasted buttery gaoshan but did not think, "Wow" because it came w/ bitterness that puts me off. I wonder if Jay has a memory of some.

"Buttery" may mean rather thorough coating of mouth for some people but just a noticeable clinging to tongue & gums etc. to others. I should learn what most people mean by the term so I have a chance to find what they want.

Drinking Green 41 lately which is called "sticky oolong" by some people. It is not sticky or buttery to me, though there is a nice mouthfeel & good huigan. Perhaps it would be to you, but I don't think it a good tea for you in other ways. (It does not offer the flavors that you seem to like. It is fresh green w/o minerals & not flowery.)

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