Looking for a yixing teapot

[brandon]

About zishateapot.co.uk and their inaccuracies regarding correct measurements, Chinese people excel in Maths...so I doubt that vendor made an accidental mistake. Off my vendor's list as well; pity because they sell quality zisha online, and finding it in this particular instance can be quite cumbersome and effort intensive.

Please don't assign malice to an action based on your misguided stereotype.

China is a huge place to explore, it has artists, computer wizes, chefs, and plenty of high school drop outs working hard for their living in factories.

Plenty of folks who grew up there are awfully bad at math. Like, can't figure out the tip in the restaurant.

[betta]

About zishateapot.co.uk and their inaccuracies regarding correct measurements, Chinese people excel in Maths...so I doubt that vendor made an accidental mistake.

One shouldn't judge a vendor through this condition based on one aspect (size/volume) and neglect another thing which is important.

Concerning volume, whether it's 120 or 150mL one shouldn't neglect the tea leaves expansion effect in brewing tea. Anyone who brews loose leaf tea knows that 150mL volume yixingpot can at the end of tea session brews less than 100mL liquid!
So I won't really say that she's fully wrong; instead I would say the measurement tolerance she used is broad.
Unfortunately, giving an accurate detail is rarely found among chinese merchants; so one should ask to the very detail clearly (leave no room for other interpretation).

Life is so tough there that people naturally take any short-cut ways just to achieve anything regardless educational, economic or social status background. Otherwise these technologies (credit for auhckw) couldn't have been invented .

[IPT]

I think I can explain the measurement problems. It is a cultural difference. Here, in China, when people ask what size a pot is, they aren't really asking for an exact measurements of teapots, they just ask for a general size, just to see how many cups it'd fill. So, this is not meant to be misleading, it's just how it is done here. They assume their purchasers are just wanting a general size, not an exact measurement, so if you are really concerned in exact sizing, you had should send any retailer an email and ask for them, because more than likely, it'll just be an estimation of size.

[TokyoB]

I think I can explain the measurement problems. It is a cultural difference. Here, in China, when people ask what size a pot is, they aren't really asking for an exact measurements of teapots, they just ask for a general size, just to see how many cups it'd fill. So, this is not meant to be misleading, it's just how it is done here. They assume their purchasers are just wanting a general size, not an exact measurement, so if you are really concerned in exact sizing, you had should send any retailer an email and ask for them, because more than likely, it'll just be an estimation of size.

+1

I really do think this is a cultural difference.

[Herb_Master]

About zishateapot.co.uk and their inaccuracies regarding correct measurements, Chinese people excel in Maths...so I doubt that vendor made an accidental mistake.

One shouldn't judge a vendor through this condition based on one aspect (size/volume) and neglect another thing which is important.

Concerning volume, whether it's 120 or 150mL one shouldn't neglect the tea leaves expansion effect in brewing tea. Anyone who brews loose leaf tea knows that 150mL volume yixingpot can at the end of tea session brews less than 100mL liquid!
So I won't really say that she's fully wrong; instead I would say the measurement tolerance she used is broad.
Unfortunately, giving an accurate detail is rarely found among chinese merchants; so one should ask to the very detail clearly (leave no room for other interpretation).

Chen is actually male, the potter Jianming Cheng's son, his avatar is that of a female friend of his taken while they were at university together.

I think many of the error's in size are due to sloppy posting on the web site, and I feel Chen has little time to correct and update the errors. Many requests to list sizes on those with no size information go by by for months and months without them appearing, but later requests receive apologies for not doing so.

However over a series of PMs more and more information will come out
Quotes from PMs

this pot has a large size than it is said on the website acturally. It has about 180ml capacity or so. Sorry for the mistake.
http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/chinese-yi ... -p-38.html

Not the listed 120ml I was hoping for (and it is still listed at 120ml 3 months later)

4, http://www.zishateapot.co.uk/chinese-yi ... -p-28.html
Sure it can be made of qinghuini or duanni and I measured its capacity again, maybe 150ml is more accurate.

I think lengthy PM 'ng on TC or series of Email to the web site to definitively agree what is being purchased is the only sure way to proceed if anyone does still wish to purchase from ZT.

When asked for smaller sizes than he does have, Chen makes the same point quote from a PM

Again, all the pots can be made of different clays as you like. Inaddition, I guess 150ml or so is quite suitable for you, because you need to add tea in the pot.

[betta]

Chen is actually male, the potter Jianming Cheng's son, his avatar is that of a female friend of his taken while they were at university together.

Oops.. I didn't know that...

I think I can explain the measurement problems. It is a cultural difference. Here, in China, when people ask what size a pot is, they aren't really asking for an exact measurements of teapots, they just ask for a general size, just to see how many cups it'd fill. So, this is not meant to be misleading, it's just how it is done here. They assume their purchasers are just wanting a general size, not an exact measurement, so if you are really concerned in exact sizing, you had should send any retailer an email and ask for them, because more than likely, it'll just be an estimation of size.

Thanks for clearing up this ambiguity.

Then...This cultural difference should be interpreted as "measurement tolerance".

Personally I will still recommend and order pots from him in the future. Among all contemporary pots I have, only the pots from Zishateapot have the quality of rapid seasoning, shining and pronounced "active clay".
Another member here who is very knowledgeable in terms of zisha also recommends zishateapot as source of good yixingpot among english websites.

[tingjunkie]

Personally I will still recommend and order pots from him in the future. Among all contemporary pots I have, only the pots from Zishateapot have the quality of rapid seasoning, shining and pronounced "active clay".
Another member here who is very knowledgeable in terms of zisha also recommends zishateapot as source of good yixingpot among english websites.

There is no doubt the clay is of good quality, but as this thread has earlier pointed out, there are plenty of Yixing fish in the English-speaking sea.

[bagua7]

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[Bob_McBob]

I'm not having much luck with teapots. My order from Yunnan Sourcing arrived today. When I unpacked the teapot I discovered the tip of the spout had been smashed. I guess this part is really fragile on shui pings, because it was packaged well and the shipping box was in good shape.



Given the negative opinions expressed about this teapot, I wonder if I should even request a replacement rather than a straight refund.

[Herb_Master]

So sad, my commiserations

[Tead Off]

I'm not having much luck with teapots. My order from Yunnan Sourcing arrived today. When I unpacked the teapot I discovered the tip of the spout had been smashed. I guess this part is really fragile on shui pings, because it was packaged well and the shipping box was in good shape.



Given the negative opinions expressed about this teapot, I wonder if I should even request a replacement rather than a straight refund.

If there is any doubt in your mind, ask for the refund. They will probably not ask you to send it back. Then, you might take it for a spin and see how you like it. If it performs up to your standards, you might consider Dr. Tingjunkie's rehabilitation clinic for disturbed Yixing ware. Or, you could get someone else to grind the tip down.

[TIM]

I'm not having much luck with teapots. My order from Yunnan Sourcing arrived today. When I unpacked the teapot I discovered the tip of the spout had been smashed. I guess this part is really fragile on shui pings, because it was packaged well and the shipping box was in good shape.



Given the negative opinions expressed about this teapot, I wonder if I should even request a replacement rather than a straight refund.

Funny clay... the inside and the outside dont match?

[bagua7]

I'm not having much luck with teapots...

Did you end up ordering the one from zishateapot? No luck either?

The problem with Yunnan Sourcing pots is that it is a hit and miss game. You either get a decent one or you get a total crook.

[Bob_McBob]

Did you end up ordering the one from zishateapot? No luck either?

I did order one of their teapots. Unfortunately, it ended up being 150ml rather than 100ml as described on their site. Read back in the thread if you're interested in the details. I am still talking to them about what to do about it.

On the plus side, it arrived in one piece (er, two) rather than 10.

[bagua7]

My bad, sorry...I already wrote a comment about that. Good luck anyway...as at least you got a pot (the joys of living outside Asia).