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by ABx » Oct 28th, '08, 04:31

I really love the yixing gaiwans. Right now they are getting more use than any of my other teaware. Yixing's ability to retain heat is unmatched and produces great results in many teas. I've also not had any problems with heat. I normally hold it with the saucer (I have a much easier time controlling it this way as long as the saucer is sufficiently indented), but even when I don't it's not generally a problem.

After thinking about it a bit, even the unglazed gaiwans have advantages. Other than personal preference (preferring a gaiwan shape over a teapot), you actually get a good deal more control with a gaiwan than a teapot. A teapot will always pour at pretty much the same rate, but a gaiwan can be opened to pour either slowly or quickly.

I really think that you ultimately want as many different types of brewing vessels as you can get. I use different types of vessels for every different type of tea. They all have advantages and disadvantages, and it's good to be able to select the right vessel for the tea you want. This is also a very good way to learn. Gaiwans are great in the beginning because of their versatility (as well as 'everyday' drinking for the same reason), and are The Right Tool for many teas. Then when you get good at using them and get an idea of what teas you like then you can start looking into yixing pots. By that time you will be more likely to have an idea of what you want to dedicate a pot to and some of the characteristics to look for (fast/slow pour, etc).
i just have the feeling that cups and gaiwans should be porcelain or something
You can wash glazed yixing if you really want to, though soaking in boiling water and wiping off with a paper towel is usually sufficient.

Like I say, though, everything is going to have it's advantages or disadvantages. When it comes to tea, I don't think of anything as good or bad, right or wrong. I just ask what each tea or teaware has to offer. I generally feel that to limit what teaware I use would be to limit my knowledge of tea, and might even lead to missing out on what all a tea might offer. Results can sometimes surprise you.

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by Vulture » Oct 29th, '08, 23:40

Ok because they haven't even mailed my shipment yet I canceled the order...

I ordered a 4oz Gaiwan for now. I will re look into yixing pots later. I want to have something to test all these samples I have for now.

One thing is does anyone have links to Yixing Gaiwans?

Also, is there any decent sources for a couple Yixing pots? I still plan on getting one or more for my blacks/oolongs.

I also ordered a sampler of rooibos and a 4oz tin of Thai Tea from Red Blossom Tea Company. I been looking for a thai tea and they have it (sadly not in a sampler) for only like 4 bucks. I will do a review later but under what section? Its under the Blacks on their site so I will go with that.

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by auggy » Oct 30th, '08, 09:50

Vulture wrote: One thing is does anyone have links to Yixing Gaiwans?
Hmm, I saw a clay gaiwan (didn't specify clay type) last night while preparing for my next tea order. I think it was at Red Blossom Tea company? I will look. Not sure as to the quality, but it was different so it caught my eye.

ETA: Okay, not Red Blossom. Will look in my history.

Found it. Tao of Tea. Who'd have thunk?

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by toastedtoads » Oct 30th, '08, 19:54

Dragon Tea House has yixing gaiwans. I plan on ordering some after I get my first purchase from them. (Tomorrow will be 3 weeks. So begins the 3-4 week wait time from China!) http://stores.ebay.com/Dragon-Tea-House ... idZ2QQtZkm

People seem to like Yunnan Sourcing or 5000friend (both ebay stores) for yixing pots. I have yet to get mine (ordered at the same time as DTH) but it was cheap-ish so I don't expect it to be high quality, I just need something to use for my first yixing pot.

You and me seem to be newbies together. Good luck on your tea/teaware journey!

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by Vulture » Nov 4th, '08, 08:43

Update:

I got my Gaiwan in along with some of the nice glass cups, a thermometer and a .1 gram scale.

I have played around with the gaiwan and found it to be ok to use for sampling teas. But definitely not good for work when I just want a big cup of the black stuff (tea that is). I definitely will keep this at home for tea sessions.

The thermometer is nice but I think I ether need a thermos or to get the UtiliTEA kettle to keep hot water in. Its annoying to go back and forth between the kettle I have in the kitchen and the Gaiwan i use at my desk.

Considering getting a decent glazed clay pot for my darker teas sometime but definitely not now. (tea budget and all)

Technique: It is definitely a change trying to use a gaiwan. I first tried holding the cap and the lip of the cup. Then by suggestion the bottom of the cup + top. Then realizing the bottom is hot too, I grab the bottom dish and put my thumb on the lid. This is awkward at first to pick up but makes a good arrangement for pouring. I have little liquid that doesn't pore. The little that sticks to the cup just gets caught in the tray and stays there.

Hopefully that helps out a fewer of the new tea people. You live and learn even if it means a few burnt fingers.

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by Vulture » Nov 10th, '08, 01:40

New questions:

Now that I have gotten used to using my Gaiwan, I still need to get an electric kettle or something. I usually have to do 2 steeps at a time or more because its inconvenient to reheat the stove kettle. Its a big hold back on my trying out more greens and whites.

My first question is the range of teas a Yixing pot can take. I like trying a lot of teas but I still want to play with a yixing pot a bit. I know I am not going to use it with my flavored teas. But I wanted to know what the range of teas you are 'supposed' to use in a yixing. Becuase it absorbs some of the tea flavor, I didn't know if you could use one for both Black and oolongs or just one of the two.

Second question is on the Gon Fu (?) style of brewing. There are probably plenty of guides out there and I have seen a few people do this on Video Chat. Can anyone link me a decent guild and also what kind of setup (teaware) that I would need to do this?

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by Trioxin » Nov 10th, '08, 01:48

Vulture wrote:New questions:

Now that I have gotten used to using my Gaiwan, I still need to get an electric kettle or something. I usually have to do 2 steeps at a time or more because its inconvenient to reheat the stove kettle. Its a big hold back on my trying out more greens and whites.

My first question is the range of teas a Yixing pot can take. I like trying a lot of teas but I still want to play with a yixing pot a bit. I know I am not going to use it with my flavored teas. But I wanted to know what the range of teas you are 'supposed' to use in a yixing. Becuase it absorbs some of the tea flavor, I didn't know if you could use one for both Black and oolongs or just one of the two.

Second question is on the Gon Fu (?) style of brewing. There are probably plenty of guides out there and I have seen a few people do this on Video Chat. Can anyone link me a decent guild and also what kind of setup (teaware) that I would need to do this?
Usually with Yixing pots you'll want to season and brew only a certain type of tea in it. I have seperate pots for Shu, Sheng, roasted Oolongs, Green Oolongs, everyday Darjeelings, and maybe soon one for more aged Sheng.

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by Vulture » Nov 10th, '08, 01:51

Trioxin wrote:Usually with Yixing pots you'll want to season and brew only a certain type of tea in it. I have seperate pots for Shu, Sheng, roasted Oolongs, Green Oolongs, and maybe soon one for more aged Sheng.
Ouch, ok I might get one and use it for darjeelings then as I know I will be having those on a regular basis. I still need to finish sampling through the types of teas before I go headlong into getting 6 or 7 yixing pots for teas :wink:

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by Salsero » Nov 10th, '08, 02:00

Vulture wrote: Ouch, ok I might get one and use it for darjeelings
Yixing are seldom used for Darjeeling. Assam, yes, because of the astringency, but generally not Darjeeling. You're not likely to find an improvement. You might even lose some sparkle.

Course, I have never tried it, so temper my words with your judgment.

Think of yixing more for oolongs (green or dark) and puerh.

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Oops, foot in mouth strikes again ... I see the venerable Trioxin uses yixing for Darjeeling.

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by Vulture » Nov 10th, '08, 02:08

Yah, by the look of it I might get one by Christmas. I have a box of 19 'need to try' teas to go through. There are so many out there that I don't know if I would find the full use out of a yixing yet. Right now I am liking my gaiwan though, as it is good for tasting all types of teas.

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by Trioxin » Nov 10th, '08, 02:17

Salsero wrote:
Vulture wrote: Ouch, ok I might get one and use it for darjeelings


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Oops, foot in mouth strikes again ... I see the venerable Trioxin uses yixing for Darjeeling.
Just the cheap ones. Its a cheap Yixing as well, so It really doesn't make much of a difference. I wouldn't recommend a nice Yixing for darjeeling either.

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by Vulture » Nov 10th, '08, 02:20

Trioxin wrote:
Salsero wrote:
Vulture wrote: Ouch, ok I might get one and use it for darjeelings


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Oops, foot in mouth strikes again ... I see the venerable Trioxin uses yixing for Darjeeling.
Just the cheap ones. Its a cheap Yixing as well, so It really doesn't make much of a difference. I wouldn't recommend a nice Yixing for darjeeling either.
ok, I still want to get one sometime to play with. even if its a cheap one I end up ruining and having to toss. :twisted:

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by Trioxin » Nov 10th, '08, 02:24

Vulture wrote:
Trioxin wrote:
Salsero wrote:
Vulture wrote: Ouch, ok I might get one and use it for darjeelings


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Oops, foot in mouth strikes again ... I see the venerable Trioxin uses yixing for Darjeeling.
Just the cheap ones. Its a cheap Yixing as well, so It really doesn't make much of a difference. I wouldn't recommend a nice Yixing for darjeeling either.
ok, I still want to get one sometime to play with. even if its a cheap one I end up ruining and having to toss. :twisted:
for cheap, nothing beats chineseteapotgallery on ebay.

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by Salsero » Nov 10th, '08, 10:37

Vulture wrote: ok, I still want to get one sometime to play with. even if its a cheap one I end up ruining and having to toss.
Unless you brew rat poison or nail polish, you can't ruin them.

Like Trioxin says, Chinese Teapot Gallery has lots of really low priced pots. If you want a little better quality, go with the $12 to $25 range! T4texas is our resident expert in CTG since he has actually seen the stock and talked with the owner in person.

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