How many Hagi are enough?

1
27
17%
2-3
23
14%
4-5
13
8%
6-7
5
3%
8-10
3
2%
11 or more
5
3%
Infinity ... always room for one more
83
52%
 
Total votes: 159

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by Robert Fornell » Oct 5th, '09, 21:18

A good example of this situation with manganese is some of the absolutely GORGEOUS youhen tenmokus that have that lovely sparkily crystally surface. (I have some lovely guinomi like this that I do not use!) Another variation that is of concern for leaching copper is the contemporary American oribe glazes that are very dark green with flecks of black mattish stuff on the surface in certain areas.

REMEMBER, a huge percentage of the glazes that studio potters use are colored with compounds of stuff like iron and titanium. These are basically non-issues even if thay do leach. Most glazes that are other colors have very low inclusions of the coloring oxides, and therefore those oxides present little leaching hazard for that chemistry.

You have to keep this all in serious persepctive. The biggest hazards from ceramic materials are experienced by the POTTERS themselves. All in all, the possible risks to the consumer are very, VERY small.

From what I know of Hagiyaki..... the glaze does not contain anything that would present a hazard even with that orange juice stored in it .


John,

This is a very informative post done in layman's terms for which I thank you.

If I may be permitted to add a comment or two, your statement that the biggest hazards from ceramic materials is to the potters is quite correct and most of it occurs in the form of free silica, which causes silicosis, found in studio air. Manganese di-oxide is also suspect in it's dry or volatized form via inhalation however the particle size is too large to be absorbed in it's wet form through the skin via osmosis. Concerning your statement on American Oribe, I remember a dinner party I held years ago at which I served a Mexican dish drizzeled with lime juice on an Oribe platter that I had made. Waiting 'til morning to clean up, much to my surprise, the previously somwhat opaque/cloudy Oribe glaze had be etched bright by the lime juice. Lately, much of what I'm working on tends to use no oxides as colorants ie. shino, kohiki, or iron and titanium only ie. tengu.

Onihagi as created by the Miwa kiln uses warabai, rice hull ash, which with it's high silica content gives the glaze it's white color with any pink blushing found on the work being yohen, or kiln effects. Probably the "Seigan blue" which is so popular here is a titanium/ash based glaze (?) which should be faily safe no matter what one might put in it.

Many thanks John.
R



ps. Seeker posted a fine example of a Chosen garatsu piece which he titled "cucumber" which is a tenmoku base glaze (iron) with a nuka glaze(warabai) on top....... should be totally safe...... enjoy!

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by chamekke » Oct 5th, '09, 22:52

Chip wrote:So, I went to my 80 something "young" parents tonight. They are both legally blind, though it is not toooo extreme yet. My folks are really old school, conservative, traditional. No Hagi in their home. :lol:

So, I have wanted to show them Hagi, and the perfect piece to take was this new Biwa, lots of "feel" to it. Smooth, yet highly textured at the same time. I think they quite liked it as they each held it and listened to my TMI explanation. 8)

Although my mom was disappointed I did not bring along tea as well ... baby steps, Mom!
Hagi really is a gift to the senses. Chip, I absolutely loved your description of your parents' experience of your new Biwa wan. Touch is a dimension that so many people think of as secondary or even unimportant.

I do think that at least half the pleasure of using this lovely crinkly Hagiware is the texture. It has the most amazing touch-landscape! And even on the Seigan Blue pieces you have the wonderful contrast between the silky-thick glaze and the sandpaper-rough koudai.

Actually I can't begin to say how thrilled I am to have bought one of each of these pieces in the latest Hagi-round. Big thanks to Chip for organizing it! And now I'm off to do a Stage 2 "hot-cornstarch" treatment of my beautiful leaker :D

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by Chip » Oct 6th, '09, 00:35

Thank you for your post, Chamekke, and you too are welcome. I am thrilled to be a part of this. :D

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by chamekke » Oct 6th, '09, 02:39

Hey, you're most welcome.

And... the hot-cornstarch treatment seems to be fixing the remaining leakage very nicely. I am impressed. This is truly sterling advice on fixing porous-pottery leakage!

You should get a knighthood for your service to teawaredom.
Arise, Sir Chip! :mrgreen:

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by JBaymore » Oct 6th, '09, 10:59

ronin ceramurai wrote:John,

This is a very informative post done in layman's terms for which I thank you.

If I may be permitted to add a comment or two,........
ラブさん、

どいたしました。

And excellent additions you've made also.

best,

...........john

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by Robert Fornell » Oct 6th, '09, 16:16

Along with Okada Yu and Hatano Zenzo, one of my favorite "Hagi" (technically not as he lives in Yamaguchi city) potters who is working in a more traditional vein is friend Yamato Yoshimasa. Coming from a long line of potters, he continues the family tradition with his fathers noborigama in which he fires a combination of wood and oil. Things that attract me to his work are simple, yet strong forms as well as an incredible subtlety of surface color and depth.

Enjoy!
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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by woozl » Oct 6th, '09, 16:42

Robert, nice piece.

I am pleased to say I was able to drink from my loquat biwa with no chataku needed. :)
It was quite a leaker initially, loosing several oz.
I have done nothing other than drinking tea from it every day.
It is amazing to see the changes going on, it is truly alive, in flux and flow.

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by Robert Fornell » Oct 6th, '09, 18:51

Robert, nice piece.

Thank you Woozl. I'll pass it along to Yoshimasa-san.

Cheers,
R

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by woozl » Oct 6th, '09, 19:11

Ok folks, Hagi ware are akin to your children.
New born, fresh, like the driven snow.

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Ahh, how they grow,
Please take photos of "your kidz" as life progresses.
Props to Abracadabre :D

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by Victoria » Oct 6th, '09, 19:28

I'm confused ... is this a new cup, or and older piece with the new inside pic? Either way it's a beautiful piece. :)

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by woozl » Oct 6th, '09, 20:10

The same cup.
Ah, the first shots are old.
about 1 year ago.
The inside is from today.

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by Chip » Oct 6th, '09, 20:15

Ohhhh, the "TeaSwap" cup, or one of them?

So, what step of 7 would you say that is, Woozl?
woozl wrote:I am pleased to say I was able to drink from my loquat biwa with no chataku needed. :)
It was quite a leaker initially, loosing several oz.
I have done nothing other than drinking tea from it every day.
It is amazing to see the changes going on, it is truly alive, in flux and flow.
You are very patient, this is useful info since I know yours was about as bad a leaker as mine. I went for the more or less instant corn starch cure.

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by woozl » Oct 6th, '09, 21:21

Chip wrote: So, what step of 7 would you say that is, Woozl?
Not so sure, but perhaps stage one?
This is less than 1 year but is in HEAVY rotation.

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by TomVerlain » Oct 6th, '09, 21:34

7 step ? I thought there was a 12 step program for Hagi ....

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Re: The unofficial, official HAGI topic!

by chamekke » Oct 6th, '09, 21:36

Is the first step admitting that we have a problem?

I don't see any of us *cough* admitting that.

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