Do you mean that you use duanni only for low grade green teas?chrl42 wrote:I didn't consider those teas?Tead Off wrote:Would you use longqing or ujeon in a duanni?chrl42 wrote:nameless, kindless one?Tead Off wrote:What kind of green tea?chrl42 wrote:I think green tea in duanni pot is not a bad choice...if the tea is affordable-ly priced
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I mean I would....Tead Off wrote:Do you mean that you use duanni only for low grade green teas?chrl42 wrote:I didn't consider those teas?Tead Off wrote:Would you use longqing or ujeon in a duanni?chrl42 wrote:nameless, kindless one?Tead Off wrote:What kind of green tea?chrl42 wrote:I think green tea in duanni pot is not a bad choice...if the tea is affordable-ly priced

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Stephane (teamaster blog) thinks it is a good match and he got that idea from Teaparker 

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Not when it's the original Meji-era white banko done almost egg shell thin.Tead Off wrote:Glazed Banko? Perish the thought.tingjunkie wrote:Stating the obvious, but Gary Oldman is the man.
My green tea goes in a gaiwan, unless it's Japanese, then it goes in Tokoname or a glazed banko kyusu.

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Ideas are all well and good, but, what is your experience using duanni for longqing tea vs a gaiwan or a zisha or zhuni clay pot? Only you can decide what is best for yourself. For example, Hojo says duanni is least enhancing for green teas. How will I know if Hojo or Teaparker is correct? Maybe Teaparker has an exceptional duanni pot and Hojo doesn't. I am only trying to get people to think about all of this and use their own experience to guide them.apolon wrote:Stephane (teamaster blog) thinks it is a good match and he got that idea from Teaparker
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Do you think it would be better than a good, unglazed, Banko clay teapot?tingjunkie wrote:Not when it's the original Meji-era white banko done almost egg shell thin.Tead Off wrote:Glazed Banko? Perish the thought.tingjunkie wrote:Stating the obvious, but Gary Oldman is the man.
My green tea goes in a gaiwan, unless it's Japanese, then it goes in Tokoname or a glazed banko kyusu.
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Duan ni is duan ni, a highly porous clay. I myself borrowed the belief from JTS who in turn have several duan ni pots which they recommend pairing with green tea amongst others. The problem is that a lot of tea can be "wasted" (as in not enjoyed )until the pot reveals its true potential as a green tea vessel. I gave up, especially when I decided to include longjing and bi luo chun in my little experiment.Tead Off wrote:For example, Hojo says duanni is least enhancing for green teas. How will I know if Hojo or Teaparker is correct? Maybe Teaparker has an exceptional duanni pot and Hojo doesn't.

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Many types of duanni clay. It is very hard to know what is what. Older clays are generally considered to be superior mainly due to different processing techniques and no additives. Unfortunately, not easy to find older and affordable yixing pots. Most people will not know much about the clays.
If I tell you I have a fantastic ChaoZhou zhuni teapot that makes the best Taiwan gaoshan I've ever had, will it mean that all red teapots from ChaoZhou will duplicate what my teapot gives me? I don't think so. How do I know? Because I have other ChaoZhou red teapots that don't brew Taiwan gaoshan as well as this particular teapot.
If I tell you I have a fantastic ChaoZhou zhuni teapot that makes the best Taiwan gaoshan I've ever had, will it mean that all red teapots from ChaoZhou will duplicate what my teapot gives me? I don't think so. How do I know? Because I have other ChaoZhou red teapots that don't brew Taiwan gaoshan as well as this particular teapot.
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Off course, I totally agree with you. I just wanted to mention where some folk got that idea.Tead Off wrote:Ideas are all well and good, but, what is your experience using duanni for longqing tea vs a gaiwan or a zisha or zhuni clay pot? Only you can decide what is best for yourself. For example, Hojo says duanni is least enhancing for green teas. How will I know if Hojo or Teaparker is correct? Maybe Teaparker has an exceptional duanni pot and Hojo doesn't. I am only trying to get people to think about all of this and use their own experience to guide them.apolon wrote:Stephane (teamaster blog) thinks it is a good match and he got that idea from Teaparker
Btw: I don't drink green tea much, but I would choose a gaiwan instead of clay

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I think that's the key. "everyone", "100%", and sometimes "all", are dangerous words.Tead Off wrote: If I tell you I have a fantastic ChaoZhou zhuni teapot that makes the best Taiwan gaoshan I've ever had, will it mean that all red teapots from ChaoZhou will duplicate what my teapot gives me? I don't think so. How do I know? Because I have other ChaoZhou red teapots that don't brew Taiwan gaoshan as well as this particular teapot.

I don't think there is anything wrong using duanni or most other clays for green tea. Throughout most time in yixing history, most yixing have been used for green tea, as Yixing and most yixing using regions before late Qing (arguably, even till today) were traditional green tea drinking regions. My favorite green tea pot (and actually my favorite teapot) is a duanni one. But I use it for green tea mainly because of its size and because duanni gets "dirty" look easily with darker tea, and I'm a messy drinker

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Totally agree, but outside Asia finding these is almost impossible.Tead Off wrote:Many types of duanni clay. It is very hard to know what is what. Older clays are generally considered to be superior mainly due to different processing techniques and no additives. Unfortunately, not easy to find older and affordable yixing pots. Most people will not know much about the clays.
Interesting. I never seen and heard of them before. So is this an special zhu ni mined in the Phoenix Mountains? Where did you purchase such a pot, if you don't mind me asking?Tead Off wrote:If I tell you I have a fantastic ChaoZhou zhuni teapot that makes the best Taiwan gaoshan I've ever had.
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Wow!bagua7 wrote:[Interesting. I never seen and heard of them before. So is this an special zhu ni mined in the Phoenix Mountains? Where did you purchase such a pot, if you don't mind me asking?
You must have missed a lot of posts on these boards

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Word of advice, don't buy the cheap one, they are liable to crack if you pour boiling water in without prewarming them gently.
I have three of the more expensive ones and you can warm them with near boil water and there are no disasters.
But if you are on a tight budget and prepared to cosset the cheaper one, then go for it.
Calling it Zhuni is potentially misleading, it is a Chao Zhou clay that produces reddish pots.
It is a local Chao Zhou Zuni - not a Yixing Zhuni
Also BTW they are thrown on a wheel not built from slabs
http://tea-obsession.blogspot.co.uk/200 ... aking.html
I have three of the more expensive ones and you can warm them with near boil water and there are no disasters.
But if you are on a tight budget and prepared to cosset the cheaper one, then go for it.
Calling it Zhuni is potentially misleading, it is a Chao Zhou clay that produces reddish pots.
It is a local Chao Zhou Zuni - not a Yixing Zhuni
Also BTW they are thrown on a wheel not built from slabs
http://tea-obsession.blogspot.co.uk/200 ... aking.html
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Bought in Hong Kong more than 20 years ago.bagua7 wrote:Interesting. I never seen and heard of them before. So is this an special zhu ni mined in the Phoenix Mountains? Where did you purchase such a pot, if you don't mind me asking?Tead Off wrote:If I tell you I have a fantastic ChaoZhou zhuni teapot that makes the best Taiwan gaoshan I've ever had.