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Sae Midori

by serok37 » May 8th, '09, 13:09

Since I have not seen any other reviews for Sae Midori, I figured I'd register and try my hand at one though bare with me because I am a tea newbie. Sorry there are no pictures but I just came home from college at 1 this morning and, because my dorm room violently threw up all my possessions into my car, I can't find my camera yet. I am using 4.9 grams of leaf and I'm guessing around 8-10 oz of water. Try not to faint when you open the bag and smell the amazingness (or go around the house huffing a bag bouncing around giddy and giggling with others around).

Brewing equipment: A mug, coffee filter, diamond scale, and meat thermometer. I let the temperature stabilize making the mug essentially a pre heated one serving tea pot.

1st brew: 160 fahrenheit, 1 minute. First impressions are that this is the best I've had, though I've never had shincha. The smell is like that of Midori, but maybe a tad bit grassier. The taste is great off the first brew, not bitter at all with just the perfect amount of astringency. YUMMY

2nd brew: 160 fahrenheit, 30 seconds. Usually I expect a sweeter less bitter second brew, but this tea stays pretty much the same! And this is great because I loved the first brew.

3rd brew: 160 fahrenheit, 2 minutes. I am nearing the bottom of this cup as I type and still the tea has not changed much, though I would say it could use a slightly shorter brewing time, say 1 minute 45 seconds, due to a slightly increased bitterness. Not that it is bad, still delicious to me :)

4th brew: 163 fahrenheit, 2 minutes. This is where O-cha's instructions stop (I followed their times but not their temperature for the first three brews), but winging it turned out great. This brew is sweet with no bitterness and a tad of astringency. I really have not noticed much of a color change throughout the brewings. I don't know about you but I can really taste a meatier buttery side of both this and the Midori when I exhale out my nose after drinking it. so good. *claps like a child grinning*

5th brew: 160 fahrenheit, 3 minutes. Woops, let it cool too long, but still good. I still like the 4th brew best but this is good. It is starting to get a slight tinge of that worn out tea leaves taste though, you know the taste when the meaty buttery gives way a little to the papery?

Conclusion: All in all this is by far my favorite tea ever and you should grab you some if you have not already. Now excuse me while I engage in my favorite activity after drinking tea: meditation.

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by Salsero » May 8th, '09, 14:13

Thanks, serok37, very entertaining review. That's a great coffee filter idea.

I am so glad I ordered some last night when Ed told me about it. Seems like I follow in his footsteps more often than not and he has not led me astray yet.

It looks like there are some killer shincha this year. Very exciting! Thanks to everyone for sharing your ideas and experience.

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by ErikaM » May 8th, '09, 18:48

I have to say, as a total newcomer to shincha, the whole experience is a total surprise. I had expected shincha to be grassier, more astringent, more bite, something like that. Instead, I've been sampling Uji Kirameki (O-Cha) and Takumi (Zencha), and both are sweet and smooth and buttery and rich.

I'm going to have to hurry up and get a couple more orders in, now that I know what I've been missing.

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by Pentox » May 8th, '09, 19:00

Tea: Hashiri Shincha 2009
Vendor: Sugimoto USA
Price: $20.00 / 50g
Source: Japan
Vendor Description: Hashiri means "early season" in Japanese. Our Hashiri Shincha is produced from very young leaves harvested at the end of April (This year's harvest was April 24th). These early-season leaves are very soft and contain a lot of sweetness. This is the taste of spring.

Leaf: The leaf for this tea is a very characteristic fukamushi. It appears to be moreso than most other fukamushi that I have run across. Most of the leaf is in the small pieces that is somewhat distinctive of fukamushi. There is a rich vegetal aroma to this dark green mix.

1st Infusion Parameters: 5g, 5 oz, 185F, 45s

1st Infusion: This tea has a rich green color. It is quite dark for a first infusion, but still has a shincha radiance to it. The flavor felt like there were three separate portions to it. There was a very up front assertive fukamushi flavor, followed by a sharp and bold central flavor, and finished with a light tapering marine backend. It felt like there was a very cleansing bitterness to this tea, there was just the right amount of astringency on the backend to pair up with this.

2nd Infusion Parameters: 15s, 185F

2nd Infusion: This infusion was a dark green murky fukamushi color. It was pretty much what I've come to expect from a second infusion fukamushi. It was dark and murky. The flavor was much bolder than before, it was sharper and more bitter than the first infusion. There was a medium astringency. It felt like there was too much power to this infusion that it became a bit harsh. There were hints of marine flavor with this infusion.

Rating: TBD

Conclusion: Since shincha can be very tricky to pin down, I'm going to wait to determine a rating for this tea in this infusion. I'll alter the parameters a bit and do a second review for it. At these parameters the tea was a bit too strong and overpowering. Even still it managed to show some of those shincha qualities that make the spring a wonderful time for green tea. It has the vibrance and freshness of spring in it. Unfortunately like the Temomi this tea was preorder only.


Round 2: Took another shot at the Hashiri Shincha from Sugimoto USA. Turned out a bit better this time, but there might be more room for improvement.

1st Infusion Parameters: 185F, 5oz, 3.5g, 45s

1st Infusion: This infusion was lightly murky with a green shincha radiance to it. It's not as opaque as Round 1, but it still has a certain degree of murkiness to it. The aroma is vibrant and fresh. The flavor is lighter, but bodied. It has a light central flavor, but the flavor is filled with freshness and just a hint of fukamushi power.

2nd Infusion Parameters: 185F, Instant pour

2nd Infusion: This infusion was characteristic dark murky fukamushi green. The flavor was quite rich and more bodied. There was just a little bit of astringency to the flavor.

Conclusion: The second infusion is still coming stronger than I would like. I'm considering dropping the leaf down further and extending the first infusion to keep that around where it is. then an instant pour might work better with the 2nd Infusion. Still it's a lovely tea, but I just have the feeling that this could go further and be more impressive.
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by cherylopal » May 9th, '09, 05:55

Thanks seroc37 for your review- I've read several posts about Sae Midori so I ordered some to try. I'm new to Japanese green teas- started in Jan and this is my first time to have sincha- I preordered Ocha's YM since I loved the YM sencha so much. The YM arrived Monday and I've been getting up early to brew before work- only time for two steeps but this morning I'm going for more!

I am loving this tea- smooth but in a very interesting complex way, greeny but not too green- I'll let the others who've posted speak- I'm not very poetic or creative this am- but this is some very very delicious tea.

Ocha YM Sincha

1st steep- 4.0 gram leaf, 6 oz water, 163F, for 1 min in preheat pot (also preheated my hagi cup!) YUM! not a very detail description but accurate!! This stuff is good enough that I got up early 4 days in a row to brew- that's getting up at 4:30 am by the way :shock:

2nd- 165-168F for 30 sec- a bit smoother and sweeter- much much greener color- I think someone said nuclear green and I would say yes- still a very similar taste to the first cup- I'm going to try brewing this afternoon- sometimes I notice a difference in my tastes from first thing in the am to the afternoon. I also thought the taste had faded a bit by my lasts sips.

3rd- 170F for 90 sec- (the sun is just rising- the sky has a beautiful peachy pink glow and my pink dogwood is looking spectaular out of my kitchen window-) so the ambience for this third steep is perfect :) ) the taste is weak- I much preferred the first two cups. Might have to work on this-


Now I'm wondering if I should also order some of the O-Cha's Fukamushi Supreme- I'm new to sincha and it would be fun to taste the difference between the different ones and well, I am loving this tea....
cheryl :)

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by Ed » May 9th, '09, 08:22

Great review, cherylopal. I would definitely recommend trying the o-cha Fukamushi Supreme. It is quite an experience. :)

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by Chip » May 9th, '09, 09:21

Ed wrote:Great review, cherylopal. I would definitely recommend trying the o-cha Fukamushi Supreme. It is quite an experience. :)
Very true, plus I would go crazy if I had the same exact sencha every single day, even if it is my fave YM from O-Cha. I like to have 2 (and sometimes a 3rd) good sencha available and never open another bag of the same tea after finishing one, not even YM. My need for variety outweighs my love of any one sencha.

Anyway, I say go for some variety!

Thanks for the reviews Seroc and Cheryl and Pentox!

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by cherylopal » May 9th, '09, 17:14

i somehow knew you all would say go for it! :)

and i really don't mind waking early, this stuff is so good!
cheryl :)

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O-cha Hatsumi

by PolyhymnianMuse » May 9th, '09, 20:53

After giving this one a few sessions I figured I would give it a go at letting you all know how it is...

~6 oz water (preheated everything)
4 grams of leaf

~160 degrees F, 1:40 - The first cup comes out really light as far as color goes. There is just a hint of green, very clear, no 'fog'. There is a very nice clean aroma in the cup, and the taste is a bit light but still nice and sweet, vegetal, no astringency at all. A nice smooth drink that lingers long in the mouth. I've had a few sessions using around 4.5 grams of leaf and I'm thinking that should be about perfect.

~165, 45s - 2nd cup is a bit darker, but pretty much the same otherwise. This shincha leaves me with a great "creamy" feeling on the back of my tongue and mouth. Again a bit light though, will need to report back on a session with more leaf...

~175, 2mins-ish - This one I left go to see what I could get out of the rest of the session, the leaves after pouring this cup smell very light so I dont see a point in going beyond this cup, although using more leaf I successfully got 4 and even 5 steeps. Color is a nice emerald green, flavor is pretty light but enough to finish the cup.

Overall I enjoy the flavor of this tea but I need to try a few other shincha to compare, and I will deff need to experiment with this one more...

I would love to see what others are brewing this one at. :)

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by olivierco » May 10th, '09, 11:43

I opened my Kirameki bag this afternoon.

4g 4oz 75°C (170-°F) 60s (I might increase the time for the next session).

Not very different than last year's. Excellent asamushi.

The difference with the non shincha version (Ujibashi san no ma) is not flagrant but I used less leaves (10% approximatively).

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Zencha Kiwami Shincha

by puerhking » May 10th, '09, 13:35

Zencha Kiwami Shincha

This is my first Shincha and second session with this tea

Approx 5g - 120ml water

1st brew is a clear bright light green. Hints of grass and very vegetal with no astringency. Fantastic aroma. Pleasant.

2nd brew is a cloudy neon green. More vegetal notes with hints of the sea along with a bit of astringency. A bit more complex than the first. The vegetal notes and astringency vie for attention. A tea high is setting in.

3rd brew is slightly cloudy and not as neon. Probably could have brewed it a little longer. Vegetal notes are more subdued and the aroma is minimal. A bit of sweetness is creeping in. Cleaner and more subtle.

4th brew looked like the first. No aroma at this point and flavor is waning. Mere remnants of vegetal flavor hover in the background with a slight sweetness. A full on tea high is being enjoyed.

Didn’t see a reason to try a fifth infusion. I am certain a veteran shincha brewer could have gotten more out of this tea. While enjoying this tea I did not think that it was spectacular. I do love the thought that this was on a tea bush in Japan a couple of weeks ago and is now in my cup. Worth the experience? Yes. Would I purchase it again? Probably not for $25.

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by Oni » May 10th, '09, 15:31

Not another sweet sencha, I began to think that these yame growers make sencha out of plants that are intended to produce gyokuro, but they are waiting for the plant to get mature enough to produce high quality gyokuro, I say they are too expencieve, too sweet for my taste, I don`t like kabusencha either because of this, but I love gyokuro.

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by Ed » May 10th, '09, 17:50

Not another sweet sencha, I began to think that these yame growers make sencha out of plants that are intended to produce gyokuro, but they are waiting for the plant to get mature enough to produce high quality gyokuro, I say they are too expencieve, too sweet for my taste, I don`t like kabusencha either because of this, but I love gyokuro.
I don't think the Asagiri varietal is commonly used for gyokuro. You might be right about the Takumi sencha (Goko varietal) coming from bushes that will eventually be used for gyokuro.

Thanks for the review, peuerhking. I've been wanting to try that one for a long time. It sounds pretty good to me.

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by emeraldrobot » May 10th, '09, 20:12

has anyone tried the Shincha from maeda en yet? I was in J-town today and saw that they had a bunch in stock at the grocery store. I decided not to buy any of the maeda en, and bought a bag of some shincha from elsewhere (will look at my purchases more carefully later) but i wanted to know if it was worth my while since I'm getting to my tea limit (i.e. my husband telling me i'm not allowed to buy anymore until at least one bag has been used).

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Zencha's Sencha the Ultimate, from Yame

by mangaka » May 11th, '09, 22:44

Here's another shincha review of mine :)

This is for Zencha's Sencha the Ultimate, from Yame. (always hearing great things about tea from Yame, so it is the one on the right in the below picture)
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Received this last week, and finally perfected it.
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Vendor Description:
This is the tea specially produced for exhibition and in limited supply.
Only first two leaves and buds are carefully picked by hands.
Rich in natural sweet aroma and fresh scent with excellent astringent taste.

The tea itself has a very sweet aroma, less vegetal than the Yukata Midori, likely because this is an asamushi rather than fukamushi.

The leaves are also less broken up from the steaming process. Some leaves are quite long and rolled up.

First Infusion:
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Tea: 4g
Water: 1 cup
Water Temperature: 70 degrees Celcius
Brew Time: 75 seconds
Review: Beautiful clear green colour. Very creamy and clean tasting, smells sweet, not astringent at all. Sweet aftertaste. Very little residue compared to the fukamushi.

Second Infusion:
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Water Temperature: 75 degrees Celcius
Brew Time: 40 seconds
Review: OH THE PRETTY MURKY GREEN! Extremely grassy and vegetal, more body and the after taste is quite sweet, and a slight slight astringent feeling hanging in my throat.

Third Infusion:
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Water Temperature: 75 degrees Celcius
Brew Time: 40 seconds
Review: Similar colour to the first infusion, not much punch left, but still yummy, sweet after taste.

Overall: Excellent tea, but comparatively too expensive. It was $22USD for 50g including shipping. O-cha's Yutaka Midori is much more worth it at $27.20USD for 100g including shipping. I think the fukamushi taste suits my palate more as well (more punch).

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