Used Yixing

[Drax]

I'm not so sure it's worth shipping them back if the seller doesn't cover shipping.

He mentioned that he paid ~$60 total for 3 pots, including shipping, and that he got one of them for ~$11. So let's assume all three pots were 11, that's 33, so 27 for shipping.

Now he has to spend *another* 27 to get back 33...?

So your choices are -$60 and 3 pots that you might be able to use as decoration, and a little bit wiser.

Or -$54 (-60 - 27 + 33), no pots and a little bit wiser.

I suppose there's the "principle of the thing," but... hmmmm. Well, best of luck!

[iannon]

I'm not so sure it's worth shipping them back if the seller doesn't cover shipping.

He mentioned that he paid ~$60 total for 3 pots, including shipping, and that he got one of them for ~$11. So let's assume all three pots were 11, that's 33, so 27 for shipping.

Now he has to spend *another* 27 to get back 33...?

So your choices are -$60 and 3 pots that you might be able to use as decoration, and a little bit wiser.

Or -$54 (-60 - 27 + 33), no pots and a little bit wiser.

I suppose there's the "principle of the thing," but... hmmmm. Well, best of luck!

i dont think he said he had to physically send them back though right? take what you can get and run if thats the case!

[tingjunkie]

I'm not so sure it's worth shipping them back if the seller doesn't cover shipping.

He mentioned that he paid ~$60 total for 3 pots, including shipping, and that he got one of them for ~$11. So let's assume all three pots were 11, that's 33, so 27 for shipping.

Now he has to spend *another* 27 to get back 33...?

So your choices are -$60 and 3 pots that you might be able to use as decoration, and a little bit wiser.

Or -$54 (-60 - 27 + 33), no pots and a little bit wiser.

I suppose there's the "principle of the thing," but... hmmmm. Well, best of luck!

Whoa. Settle down there. You're giving me bad flashbacks of 5th grade math class. Hopefully, if he sends them back on train A traveling at 45 miles per hour...

[HeinzFrick]

Sorry about the long time laps between my reporting in;
I have a full time job that is rather hectic, and like a complete IDIOT I'm also running my own "one man" mobile computer repair business on the side servicing about 300 retired folks whom 1/3 are "clueless". At times, its is a NIGHTMARE!

Ok, for the ones that have been putting up with my "noobe pot-head" endeavors, trials and tribulations, I have some very amusing back and forth emails between this ebay seller and my self. And just to reiterate, from the very start, I knew these things weren't real, however the shoe polish was a bit offensive and didn't realize these NUTS actually sat around and spent their time doing this....FOR A FOOLISH 40 BUCKS profit mind you. And maybe I should have just left it alone and accepted it. But I just had to send him an email at least letting him know that I knew he tricked me. Well in the response email he sent he even tried to continue bull shitting me--and that's what TEA-ED me off and I just couldn't leave that alone. Way to busy to post the emails now but will post a full report this weekend--its really pretty funny...

H

[HeinzFrick]

The following is tale of two newly acquainted business partners…
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Here is the original Ebay listing description:

I am an honest businessman. i believe that Honesty and credit standing is the best policy. Although I am an new seller on ebay, But I have played Antique for many years. I live in BeiJing of china, And I have a big antique store in China, we always personally went to countryside for collect country Antique. So my cost is cheaper than others. I would like to make much friends by ebay for my future business. If there's a chance we can cooperate, I will give you a good price. China is a very ancient civilized nation, She has resplendent culture, she has the history for very long time, there is countless ancient relic . that we sell, come from personal collections, have the strong oriental culture color. We would like to BE one dissemination of the inside country culture,let more person the understanding China, promote the cultural interaction of the Chinese and other nation, hand over more foreign friends . Wish your good luck.
You are bidding on Rare YiXing China Purple Clay Carved teapots
This item material is a Yixing China Purple Clay Height:165mm;Length:168mm
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After receiving the items, and getting help on this forum….thanks guys…
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Dear yanyan_1999,

MY GOOD FRIEND! I WANT TO BECOME business partners WITH YOU! I AM GOING TO HELP YOUR ONLINE STORE AND POST SOME LINKS ON ALL THE TEA AND TEA POT NEWS BLOGS THAT I KNOW OF TO PROMOTE YOUR FAKE AND FRAUD JUNK TEAPOTS ITEMS! I HAVE POSTED PICTURES OF YOUR FAKE AND FRAUD JUNK TEAPOT WITH THE SHOE POLISH REMOVED ON A TEACHAT BLOG COMMUNITY, AND ALSO POSTED YOUR ONLINE EBAY SELLER ID SO YOU CAN GET MORE BUSINESS! I WILL CONTACT YOU SOON SO WE CAN DO MORE HONEST BUSINESS TOGETHER! THANKS TO ME, YOUR NEW business partner, I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE YOUR NAME IS ON ALL THE TEAPOT NEWS WEB SITES! THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING NEWS PAGE. LOOK AT THE LINK AND SEE THE NICE WORK I WILL DO FOR YOU!

http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 9&start=60

I HOPE YOU ENJOY OUR NEW business partnership together!

THANK YOU FOR BEING MY NEW business partner!

YOUR NEW FRIEND!
- heinzfrick
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Dear heinzfrick,
Dear Heinz, thank you again of E-mail!
These teapot I buy in the goods market, I see these teapot shapes special, the price not is high, so I buy in my store to sell, pleasing an understanding.
Good friend Heinz, if your not likes these teapots, please need not worry, I send back you of payment.
Increase to you troublesome, I give your apology, please pardon.
Kind regards!
You of friend:yan

- yanyan_1999
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Dear yanyan_1999,

READ YOUR OWN WORDS...
1) I have played Antique for many years. I live in BeiJing of china, And I have a big antique store in China, we always personally went to countryside for collect country Antique.

2) These teapot I buy in the goods market, I see these teapot shapes special, the price not is high, so I buy in my store to sell, pleasing an understanding.

Can you explain why your words dont match?

- heinzfrick
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No reply form Mr yanyan_1999, so i sent another email;

Dear yanyan_1999,

You state on all your listings that you are an honest businessman, what is your recommendation on how to resolve this problem?
- heinzfrick
Dear heinzfrick,
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Dear Heinz
The I definite have antique store, I usually buy a merchandise to sell, no antinomy.
I looked for to sell these teapot dealers today, inquiring a detailed information of these teapots, just coming back.
Good friend Heinz, my is honest businessman, satisfies customer's any request, please tell me, you of suggestion, I promise make you satisfied.
News waited for you.
Again thankful!
You of friend:yan
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- yanyan_1999
obviously he wasn't getting it, so I tried to increase the clarity for him;

Dear yanyan_1999,

Yan,

Option 1)
(you have 24 hours to return $60 to my paypal account)
Because you are my new best friend, I am going to allow you a full 24 hours to return $60 to my paypal account. And if you want me to ship 3 teapots back to you, you will pay all shipping charges. And because you are my friend, I won't charge you to pack them in a box for you even if it was your fault that I waste MY TIME. You said: Rare China YiXing Purple Clay Carved teapot 1800-1899, and you: lied to me and shipped garbage covered with shoe polish. You must accept 100% responsibility! I accept 0% responsibility!

Option 2)
(you do not agree with option 1)
I will report all three items that you listed as fraud to eBay and PayPal and begin an investigation with eBay on your account and have eBay recover my money form you. you have 24 hours form now. it is 2200 hours eastern time for me. Tomorrow at 2200 hours, if you did not transfer $60 to my paypal account, I will contact eBay and start investigation on your account.

Thank you Mr Yan for being my new friend. Its always so nice to make new friends and business partners.
- heinzfrick
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within 30 min I received full refund.....the end...

[Chip]

Remind me to not be your bestest friend/business partner

[the_economist]

good job.

[iannon]

Remind me to not be your bestest friend/business partner

uhh..ya!

[HeinzFrick]

Ok ok ok ....so I got a little carried away.....hehehe

[HeinzFrick]

Ok, so now how do I go about getting serious about choosing a tea pot that I will use daily? Alot! The tea I like most is the Oolong Pu-erh, both the old raw and the roasted. (don't want to deeper into all the sub categories of that tea--been reading for weeks about this and there is just too much info on this topic--there really is no end to it), just keep it simple; Oolong Pu-erh of any type.

Note: I have a very dear Chinese friend whom has a boss that brought to her some old pu-erh that has been in the family for 40yrs. No other information about it, just that its a very hard, small black brick, and she gave me a piece the size of a deck of playing cards. I am scared to touch it because ones its gone....its gone! I did try some and its amazing--back to the pot.

I don't want to spend months on this, so I have decided on getting something new from ZishaTeapot.co.uk because many times in this forum this vendor has come up and has had positive reviews about their products. And they look real nice too. Does anyone have an idea what I should look for...

Thanks,
Heinz

[TomVerlain]

As bob said ....There's no success like failure/ And failure's no success at all

[the_economist]

i would separate the oolong pot and the puer pot. either that or just use a gaiwan for all oolongs and get one pot for aged-raw puer (it seems u don't do cooked or young-raw so that simplifies matters).

[tingjunkie]

Ok, so now how do I go about getting serious about choosing a tea pot that I will use daily? Alot! The tea I like most is the Oolong Pu-erh, both the old raw and the roasted.

Couple things... Oolong and Puerh are two very different types of tea. Oolong comes in many different varieties from many different regions, and it can be both roasted and oxidized to all different levels. Oolong can be aged, though most people drink fairly new stuff. Puerh is a completely different tea from Yunnan, can either be raw (sheng) or cooked (shu), and both varieties are generally preferred best when aged.

If you do want to be "serious" about choosing a Yixing pot, you really don't want to use the pot for different varieties of tea. Find one tea (light roast Anxi oolong, for example) and dedicate the pot exclusively to that. If you want a switch hitter, you'd be much better off getting a porcelain pot or a gaiwan.

[babalian]

I don't want to spend months on this, so I have decided on getting something new from ZishaTeapot.co.uk because many times in this forum this vendor has come up and has had positive reviews about their products. And they look real nice too. Does anyone have an idea what I should look for...

Thanks,
Heinz

ZishaTeapot.co.uk is pretty good, I bought two teapots from them which are quite nice. The clay certainly has great quality so does the craftsmanship. I am actually going to purchase another one from them soon.
You may PM the site owner from teachat.

[HeinzFrick]

Everyone's input is great! Thank you all. I have read/seen in several places while looking for tea to buy, that quite a few of the Pu-erh teas were made using oolongs and some using green and so on. What am I getting wrong? If I had a choice on my first teapot I most definitely will go with something suited for cooked pu-erh because it seems the tea is a little cheaper. I was a big coffee drinker, maybe 4 to 7 or more cups per day, and replacing my coffee habit with a tea habit would be most economically done using the tea that's a little cheaper.

I have begun pm ing Chen and she has been very helpful explaining what clay is suited for what tea. She knows clay teapots like I know computers! Its amazing to me how all these teapots have so many differences between them, and how important each feature is and what it's job is when brewing tea.

As per Chen, the color of the clay doesn't matter. This is good, one less factor to consider........smile.

Have to run to work....thanks everyone....

H