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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by chrl42 » May 7th, '12, 00:43

pgho wrote:
chrl42 wrote:That's not 60's GaoQuanFa. 60's custom one has 8-cup size (180ml)only, pre-CR seals (6-letter) and made of F1 Zhaozhuang Hongni. Shape also follows a typical export-Ping Di (stout) looking with 'helmet' lid
Chrl,

Thanks for your help and those useful information. It is funny under the lid, it does say 八杯 (eight cups). And I measured again, it is 120 ml .... a very poor reproduction in that sense. Anyway, if it is 180 ml I would not have bought it .. do not need that size. Good thing, I did not pay much for it and it works for me.

{Note : To think about it, when I was a kid growing up in KL in the 60's the eateries (bak kut teh and fried noodle) that usually served tea used the bigger pots similar to the 180ml or bigger. If only I was into pots collecting then! :D :D
excuse me, 8-cup must be 150ml, 4-cup (80ml)..6-cup (120ml)..credited it wrong :mrgreen:

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by pgho » May 7th, '12, 04:54

chrl42 wrote: excuse me, 8-cup must be 150ml, 4-cup (80ml)..6-cup (120ml)..credited it wrong :mrgreen:
chrl,
No problem, I am still learning alot from all the good info from you. :D :D

Btw, I went googling for shui ping sizes; found your earlier post at another site. Then you gave the following sizes:

"6-cup (about 90~100ml) and Zini is 4-cup(about6~70ml)"
"size were 10-cup (150~160ml) mostly or 8-cup (120~130ml)" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Can't the Yixing potters standardised their cup sizes? :lol:

I have 3 sets of 6 shui ping and the sizes are 37ml, 60ml, 85ml, 125ml, 150ml and 175ml give and take a few ml. Probably 2,4,6,8,10 and 12 cups.

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by chrl42 » May 7th, '12, 05:29

pgho wrote:
chrl42 wrote: excuse me, 8-cup must be 150ml, 4-cup (80ml)..6-cup (120ml)..credited it wrong :mrgreen:
chrl,
No problem, I am still learning alot from all the good info from you. :D :D

Btw, I went googling for shui ping sizes; found your earlier post at another site. Then you gave the following sizes:

"6-cup (about 90~100ml) and Zini is 4-cup(about6~70ml)"
"size were 10-cup (150~160ml) mostly or 8-cup (120~130ml)" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Can't the Yixing potters standardised their cup sizes? :lol:

I have 3 sets of 6 shui ping and the sizes are 37ml, 60ml, 85ml, 125ml, 150ml and 175ml give and take a few ml. Probably 2,4,6,8,10 and 12 cups.
..I don't even remember when I wrote such

4-cup, 6-cup, actual size can be different due to thickness of wall, shrinkage and many factor. For example, 70's Qing Yin Zhong Guo SP used Zhuni-like Hongni, so actual size is said to be 100~110ml (while normal 6-cup is around 6-cup), and earlier F1 SPs are slightly bigger cos earlier SP has thin walls.

Next is Chinese custom of measuring size, Han Qi Lou wrote, "6-cup is 80ml, 8-cup is 100ml"
老朱泥 孟臣 小水平壶 ,底刻款“孟臣”; 高5cm 最长10.5cm 约150cc小巧,用福建功夫茶说法大概是3杯到5杯左右,
this is one pot I purchased from online, he was right in saying height and length, and 3~5-cup, just wrong cos the pot received it turned out to be 80ml. :(

Normally speaking, 4-cup is around 80ml and so..not wrong...now could we skip to next subject, please? :mrgreen:

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by fdrx » May 7th, '12, 12:41

99 pictures of clay: http://bit.ly/IyDUcP

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by debunix » May 7th, '12, 16:09

Curious about those 'cup' measures: would those be referring to the tiny 30mL tasting cups about the size of this aroma cup set?

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(the cups hold about 30mL)

And the clay photos are quite interesting, would be even cooler if I could read the signs.

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by the_economist » May 7th, '12, 16:32

They do, but not to the brim. 80-90ml for four cups would mean roughly 15-20ml per cup (after accounting for leaves - depending on how stuffed the pot is).

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by chrl42 » May 7th, '12, 17:42

debunix wrote:Curious about those 'cup' measures: would those be referring to the tiny 30mL tasting cups about the size of this aroma cup set?

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(the cups hold about 30mL)

And the clay photos are quite interesting, would be even cooler if I could read the signs.
I always thought, they are the sizes without tea leaves.

The most traditional Chaozhou Gongfu tea set is one pot with three cups, pots expected to be 4-cup cos tea leaves eat the size.

I once saw the documentary, in Chaozhou, one table with 3 seats is the most common, and if guests' number enlarge the man in docu.(pretty confirmed one) replied, then they go to another table, and brewing person doesn't drink (first because there are 3 cups and 3 seats, second for the hospitality for guests, in Chaozhou)

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by TIM » May 7th, '12, 23:38

Correct me if I was worry, but these are Taiwnese sets. Nothing to do with traditional Chaozhou Gongfu tea set?

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by the_economist » May 8th, '12, 00:43

Yep, I think debunix was just using the aroma cup as a comparison for size.

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by debunix » May 8th, '12, 00:58

Yes. I have some other very tiny tasting cups but don't have any photos of them to share.

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by auhckw » May 8th, '12, 09:08

Came across this... water chestnut teapot

80s with the sticker. Duanni, but outside is layered with red clay, green clay and painting

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Size about 60ml (guestimate)

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by pgho » May 9th, '12, 05:49

Congratulation Tingjunkie, your thread surpassed the 1000 posts mark.
And to auhckw for crossing it with the water chestnut, lovely. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by tingjunkie » May 9th, '12, 18:37

I won't lie, I was watching the countdown too. Ah, the silly milestones we give importance to. :lol:

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by auhckw » May 11th, '12, 09:24

The usual shop that I like about their custom made teapots. New arrival...
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4 diff clay (same mold but shrinkage: 140ml to 180ml range)

Left to right:-
Zhu Ni
Jiang Po Ni (A type of Zi Ni)
Di Cao Qing
Huang Jin Duan (A type of Duan Ni)
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by auhckw » May 12th, '12, 02:03

Decided to buy this out of the 4 types of clay as I don't have this kind of clay. A sub-category of Zi Ni.

大茶树记 – 降坡泥 – 孟臣款壶
dà chá shù jì – jiàng pō ní – mèng chén kuǎn hú

Capacity: 170ml
Made in: 2011

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