Greetings TeaChatters. Big TeaDay today. Let's start out by sharing what is in your cup throughout the day.
Yesterday we declared our "best teas" of this past Summer. You can still vote and discuss yesterday;s topic.
LOL, this one might get me fired. Today's TeaPoll and discussion topic. How would you GRADE or rate the new TeaChat version since the changeover that occurred almost 2 months ago? Please be honest, as improvements cannot be made without candid input.
I am looking forward to sharing this TeaDay with everyone. Bottoms up.
Sep 15th, '09, 02:30
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Re: Tuesday TeaDay 9/15/09 Rate this?
To the extent that I like it, it is because of things that have not changed. I really miss the email alerts I used to get when a thread I was following had a new response. I also liked the additional information like email addresses and so forth that was optionally available. In fact, thinking about it, there might be no feature that I prefer in the new format. Maybe the "View New Posts" button... for some reason it seems to actually work now, at least it does if I clear cookies and log back in. The thing I like the most about TeaChat, the people, hasn't changed and that's good!
On a completely different subject: This is my 501st daily photo in TeaChat: Huzza me!
Booo, catcalls, jeers, derision: at least for a while it will be my last. You've all been great to look and make many kind comments, but I've pretty much exhausted my limited range and the project has grown tiresome. Of course I will still be around the forums, just not doing the daily photo thing.
On a completely different subject: This is my 501st daily photo in TeaChat: Huzza me!
Booo, catcalls, jeers, derision: at least for a while it will be my last. You've all been great to look and make many kind comments, but I've pretty much exhausted my limited range and the project has grown tiresome. Of course I will still be around the forums, just not doing the daily photo thing.
Sep 15th, '09, 02:47
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Awww, sorry to hear this, Sal. We have all enjoyed your photos for 501 days. Thanks for all the TD photos.
Don't be a stranger.
Don't be a stranger.
Sep 15th, '09, 03:00
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Sep 15th, '09, 03:05
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501. Wow. Perhaps in honor of jeans? Hm. In either case, many thanks for all the wonderful photos to enjoy! It's certainly been a beautiful journey.
As for the site, I give it a B, more like a B+ for me. I never used the 'view new posts' button, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing
The only things that I miss at this point are the breadcrumbs links also at the *bottom* of the page (which is useful after you've posted or reached the bottom of a thread), and having to manually reset all the posts when I'm done reading the ones I want to read. Not too bad, I suppose!
Continuing with American Hao 0905 this morning. It was a pretty good series, in general.
As for the site, I give it a B, more like a B+ for me. I never used the 'view new posts' button, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing
The only things that I miss at this point are the breadcrumbs links also at the *bottom* of the page (which is useful after you've posted or reached the bottom of a thread), and having to manually reset all the posts when I'm done reading the ones I want to read. Not too bad, I suppose! Continuing with American Hao 0905 this morning. It was a pretty good series, in general.
Re: Tuesday TeaDay 9/15/09 Rate this?
The only complaint I have is a little one but it drives me nuts somedays. I like peoples avatars to be on the left. That way it flows so much better that you can look on the left at who the person is and then read the post instead of looking over to the right to see whos talkin and then back over to the right to read it. This gets old after reading through 20+ posts.
Thanks for all your pics Sal, its been a pleasure to see them every day. Maybe you could post one every other day for a while and then every 2 days so we don't go through withdraw.
Thanks for all your pics Sal, its been a pleasure to see them every day. Maybe you could post one every other day for a while and then every 2 days so we don't go through withdraw.
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I give the new design a C, because it doesn't render quite right in my IE 8. Also, I agree that having the avatars on the left is more convenient.
Salsero, thank you very much for the 501 superb pictures that have come to define TeaDay for me. I hope your photographic hiatus will be a short one.
Thoroughly enjoying some First Love from TeaCuppa today.
Salsero, thank you very much for the 501 superb pictures that have come to define TeaDay for me. I hope your photographic hiatus will be a short one.
Thoroughly enjoying some First Love from TeaCuppa today.
Re: Tuesday TeaDay 9/15/09 Rate this?
Welllllllllll - since you asked -
I think it is below average . Honestly, I do not see any improvement, but rather degradation. On safari, IE8 and iphone, all the text is garbled, all the links are in the middle of pages or displaced. I stopped getting email notifications prior to the change, but it has not been fixed since the change.
I don't like the 750 pixel limit on pictures. strange number. I understand you don't want huge pictures, but it is not as though 800 blows out the formating, as the formating does not scale / work in any case.
As a guess, I would say number of users and posts have gone down since the change. And as a guess, I would say usability is responsible for that.
Adagio - through their goodness has provided a nice place for people who like tea to talk about their tea hobby. It is free. So I am certainly getting my money's worth.
But if you ask my opinion on the new site .........
I think it is below average . Honestly, I do not see any improvement, but rather degradation. On safari, IE8 and iphone, all the text is garbled, all the links are in the middle of pages or displaced. I stopped getting email notifications prior to the change, but it has not been fixed since the change.
I don't like the 750 pixel limit on pictures. strange number. I understand you don't want huge pictures, but it is not as though 800 blows out the formating, as the formating does not scale / work in any case.
As a guess, I would say number of users and posts have gone down since the change. And as a guess, I would say usability is responsible for that.
Adagio - through their goodness has provided a nice place for people who like tea to talk about their tea hobby. It is free. So I am certainly getting my money's worth.
But if you ask my opinion on the new site .........
Re: Tuesday TeaDay 9/15/09 Rate this?
Salsero, thanks for sharing your wonderful photos. It's the thing I always look forward to each morning.
Re: Tuesday TeaDay 9/15/09 Rate this?
Ummm ... well as a newbie to the forum in April, I find this new format lacking in a few things that I used heavily in the old one, i.e. the search and advanced search features. These were very helpful to me in finding information within seconds, but now I would have to rate these features well below a C!
The words that still spill across the board index page are quite bothersome, and I can't tell you how many times I accidentally hit 'delete board cookies' while trying to move throughout the forum. The posts not counting when we post in TeaDay is a shame as I believe this is important to a lot of members.
A few other incidental annoyances, IMHO the board index page looks sloppy with words overlapping and running together, however ... It is free. So I am certainly getting my money's worth. +1TomVerlain
Thanks Sal for your beautiful pics, I am looking forward to your photo posting return!
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The words that still spill across the board index page are quite bothersome, and I can't tell you how many times I accidentally hit 'delete board cookies' while trying to move throughout the forum. The posts not counting when we post in TeaDay is a shame as I believe this is important to a lot of members.
A few other incidental annoyances, IMHO the board index page looks sloppy with words overlapping and running together, however ... It is free. So I am certainly getting my money's worth. +1TomVerlain
Thanks Sal for your beautiful pics, I am looking forward to your photo posting return!
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D is for Dog.
Sal, could you put together a library of your tea images? They are great photos for active desktop use with Wall Paper Changer freeware. Watermark and copyright them, if you do. Programs like FoxSaver can also access them and build a library for screen saver mode.
Teachat continues to have problems, long after they should have been resolved. This is the most widely access public face for Adagio. It would serve them well to contract with a php specialist to clean up these lingering problems pronto.
Problems persist in column width parsing and it's effect on radio buttons gone missing, the need to use an Easter Egg style approach to find invisible radio buttons... Have no idea why the Admin allocated a overly generous width to the right hand column, but it throws off the spacing for center and lefthand column features. Widening the page doesn't help. Why would you have registration/log text window in on the right hand side...half way down the page, well below active scroll bar assignment space?? If you scroll down just a few lines from top, the login text box stops working and you must go to a separate login page.
These problems are arising in Firefox, one of more popular browsing programs. This ain't palm-sized gagetry with code designed for tiny screens, nor exotic browser software.
The teachat site logs customers off erratically, often within minutes of 'inactive' browsing, like..if you're answering PMs! Oopsadaisy, there goes your message text, into lala land because after you log in again, you're in a new session!
The search engine, nor it's 'advanced' mode doesn't work, it's useless code taking up space. They didn't work in the old version either. Why not just open a Google search box within the active page and be export the task to software that works? Canned code and help with implementing it is available from Google for the asking.
There is no reasonable explanation why members like TomVerlain, who has invested a lot of time into information-intensive posts, should loose his active ID and previous post history. The problem has arisen from inept database translation and migration in the preparation for new software setup. You can see it if you look at older posts, present members who were active in 2006 and 07 don't have their member ID associated with the present thread and member databases. The mod, however, does. You can get to their old posts if they retained active status in the new database, but it's vaporware if they were left off the active member list.
The 'notify by email' for thread replies and new PMs still doesn't work for many/most/all members.
No excuses for the lack of attention to fixes, not a month plus after these issues were raised. There is an active, moderated discussion group for discussion site software problems. If code is a problem, fix it. This ain't 1990.
Kenilworth Estate OP in my cup, using another test for workable spring water supply. At least it smells familiar again.
Teachat continues to have problems, long after they should have been resolved. This is the most widely access public face for Adagio. It would serve them well to contract with a php specialist to clean up these lingering problems pronto.
Problems persist in column width parsing and it's effect on radio buttons gone missing, the need to use an Easter Egg style approach to find invisible radio buttons... Have no idea why the Admin allocated a overly generous width to the right hand column, but it throws off the spacing for center and lefthand column features. Widening the page doesn't help. Why would you have registration/log text window in on the right hand side...half way down the page, well below active scroll bar assignment space?? If you scroll down just a few lines from top, the login text box stops working and you must go to a separate login page.
These problems are arising in Firefox, one of more popular browsing programs. This ain't palm-sized gagetry with code designed for tiny screens, nor exotic browser software.
The teachat site logs customers off erratically, often within minutes of 'inactive' browsing, like..if you're answering PMs! Oopsadaisy, there goes your message text, into lala land because after you log in again, you're in a new session!
The search engine, nor it's 'advanced' mode doesn't work, it's useless code taking up space. They didn't work in the old version either. Why not just open a Google search box within the active page and be export the task to software that works? Canned code and help with implementing it is available from Google for the asking.
There is no reasonable explanation why members like TomVerlain, who has invested a lot of time into information-intensive posts, should loose his active ID and previous post history. The problem has arisen from inept database translation and migration in the preparation for new software setup. You can see it if you look at older posts, present members who were active in 2006 and 07 don't have their member ID associated with the present thread and member databases. The mod, however, does. You can get to their old posts if they retained active status in the new database, but it's vaporware if they were left off the active member list.
The 'notify by email' for thread replies and new PMs still doesn't work for many/most/all members.
No excuses for the lack of attention to fixes, not a month plus after these issues were raised. There is an active, moderated discussion group for discussion site software problems. If code is a problem, fix it. This ain't 1990.
Kenilworth Estate OP in my cup, using another test for workable spring water supply. At least it smells familiar again.
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Re: Tuesday TeaDay 9/15/09 Rate this?
Huzza you! Good luck with future projects. Hope you will share them even if no longer tea-centric.Salsero wrote:
On a completely different subject: This is my 501st daily photo in TeaChat: Huzza me!
Certainly missing the email notifications and the PM section is jumbled and confusing. Looking forward to when it is all tidied up. Still happy to have a place to chat about tea with you fine people.
Yunnan Gold so far - and then who knows what... Happy TeaDay all.
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I gave it a C. My needs are simple; I'll use whatever is available.
I agree with all of the previous comments: the fixed frame on the top takes up too much real estate, the avatar jerks your attention rightward in an unnatural way, the post counter still doesn't work, the text doesn't fit properly in the topic index, ...
On the other hand, I like the ``online'' banner across the avatars, and I like being to see a listing of whoever is online -- however this feature seems to reside in Brigadoon as I can find it only some of the time.
Sal, thank you for sharing 501 photos with us! I too have always looked forward to your daily offering.
Started the day with surugawase, currently drinking Jing's Tie Luo Han from last year.
I agree with all of the previous comments: the fixed frame on the top takes up too much real estate, the avatar jerks your attention rightward in an unnatural way, the post counter still doesn't work, the text doesn't fit properly in the topic index, ...
On the other hand, I like the ``online'' banner across the avatars, and I like being to see a listing of whoever is online -- however this feature seems to reside in Brigadoon as I can find it only some of the time.
Sal, thank you for sharing 501 photos with us! I too have always looked forward to your daily offering.
Started the day with surugawase, currently drinking Jing's Tie Luo Han from last year.
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Sal, THANK YOU for all of the beautiful images you have given us over the past 501 days! You have deepened my appreciations for all types of tea and I will sorely miss your images! But please don't stay away from the forum! I appreciate all of your tea knowledge as well!Three Brothers in my cup this morning.