iovetea wrote:please no matter who is right don't say you have to pay astronomic prices for a good real pu erh. you only support cutthroat price pushers and only people with moon prices will survive.
I'm sure there are places were you can get a pu for a reasonable price without making greedy people rich.
Also i wouldn't use Taobao as reference point, maybe good pu erh traders don't even use taobao who knows. Maybe people know westerners use taobao and the prices are inflated to begin with and people who sell pu erhs in the west realistically would be crazy to tell you the prices are inflated.
Hope this isn't too much of a thread hijack, but I've seen you say similar things elsewhere on the forum. I personally feel like you have a secret vendetta out there against puerh as a tea type. I don't blame you if you don't like it, I don't like it much either, but I tend to keep stuff around for a change of pace.
Puerh has always been a less expensive tea option, and I would dare say 10 years or so ago, it was vastly below where it should have been in price as a tea product. I think you unrealistically expect that prices will drop that low ever again. The truth is now, a lot of people are drinking puerh, even more is quite a few people are drinking it young, or buying it young hoping to hold onto it. Granted while most people hands down will prefer a typical green tea or oolong tea, compared to a typical puerh.
But for about 50 dollars you can buy puerh cakes that are at least 300grams ( likely more), that most people would consider rather high quailty for a puerh. That's less than 17 cents a gram, whereas there are certain types of teas where I would be skeptical of any type of that tea offered for less than 20 cents a gram. Yancha being one, while I am not saying there are not good quality and value Yancha out there, I am saying its just basically unheard of. Heck even most green teas are likely suspect for under 20 cents a gram, ( Japanese teas oddly excepted from this statement).
So you have a lot more people buying Puerh, with a comparatively minimal increase in production (in fact I've heard about tea fields in Yunnan being torn down so they could cultivate either coffee or rubber). The price of puerh had to adjust. Yes you can often still buy puerh bings for 10USD or less, but those like most things that seem too good to be true, might be closer to weed clippings, than actual tea. Wake up the Puerh bubble is over, the price went from too low, to too high, then things have settled down a bit and are likely much closer to where they should be for today's market.