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New Glass Jars

by MimzyCaterpillar » Mar 9th, '10, 20:18

I was just wondering why Adagio would sell clear glass jars when that will degrade the tea? Light will degrade the tea just like it would fade anything with dyes in it. It just doesn't make any sense. Also, I work in a tea store and my job is to inform people about teas so I do know a fair amount of knowledge about teas.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by Ebtoulson » Mar 10th, '10, 00:54

I'm guessing your talking about their normal containers (which they're switching to resealable bags) which only have clear lids. If you are, its plastic not glass, and they have a UV coating to protect against degrading.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by AdamMY » Mar 10th, '10, 10:32

Eb,

I think she is talking about these

http://www.adagio.com/teaware/glass_jar ... 03120bf289

And Honestly I have no clue why they are doing that, I'm sure if they were specially coated to protect the tea from sun it would say. Perhaps they will chime in on this matter.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by Ebtoulson » Mar 10th, '10, 12:12

o wow I didn't even see that when I looked yesterday. I would think that it has some kind of coating on it since they coat their other products but if not tsk tsk adagio.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by Chip » Mar 10th, '10, 12:13

I received a gift of 2 of these. I was looking for the boxes which I read when I received them, unfortunately I cannot find them.

I believe it states that the borsilica glass used does not allow UV penetration. The product description on the site could use a little more information.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by MimzyCaterpillar » Mar 10th, '10, 17:42

If it is coated, then that is awesome! Definitely would be a great option for displaying the tea. Although since they do not mention it, I highly doubt it and I also highly doubt that there is anything clear that could effectively keep out light and sun.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by Chip » Mar 10th, '10, 21:53

MimzyCaterpillar wrote:If it is coated, then that is awesome! Definitely would be a great option for displaying the tea. Although since they do not mention it, I highly doubt it and I also highly doubt that there is anything clear that could effectively keep out light and sun.
Did you ever hear of UV protection in sun tan lotions? It seems that it is certain wavelengths of light that is most harmful to tea (as well as skin), and many glass materials block out these rays.

Not that I would stick these out in the sun, but who would? :mrgreen:

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Re: New Glass Jars

by geeber1 » Mar 10th, '10, 21:56

Maybe we should email Adagio and ask?

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Re: New Glass Jars

by Chip » Mar 10th, '10, 22:05

Actually, that was my first thought ... :mrgreen:

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Re: New Glass Jars

by MimzyCaterpillar » Mar 11th, '10, 20:54

Chip wrote:
MimzyCaterpillar wrote:If it is coated, then that is awesome! Definitely would be a great option for displaying the tea. Although since they do not mention it, I highly doubt it and I also highly doubt that there is anything clear that could effectively keep out light and sun.
Did you ever hear of UV protection in sun tan lotions? It seems that it is certain wavelengths of light that is most harmful to tea (as well as skin), and many glass materials block out these rays.

Not that I would stick these out in the sun, but who would? :mrgreen:

Um, what does suntan lotions have to do with uv protected glass? Glass does not prevent all UV rays and if someone is spending money on something why would they want to take a chance. Also house lighting can possibly have effects on the tea. I would rather stick to light tight, air tight, and moisture free tins since I do not wish to degrade my precious tea.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by Chip » Mar 11th, '10, 21:05

MimzyCaterpillar wrote:
Chip wrote:
MimzyCaterpillar wrote:If it is coated, then that is awesome! Definitely would be a great option for displaying the tea. Although since they do not mention it, I highly doubt it and I also highly doubt that there is anything clear that could effectively keep out light and sun.
Did you ever hear of UV protection in sun tan lotions? It seems that it is certain wavelengths of light that is most harmful to tea (as well as skin), and many glass materials block out these rays.

Not that I would stick these out in the sun, but who would? :mrgreen:

Um, what does suntan lotions have to do with uv protected glass? Glass does not prevent all UV rays and if someone is spending money on something why would they want to take a chance. Also house lighting can possibly have effects on the tea. I would rather stick to light tight, air tight, and moisture free tins since I do not wish to degrade my precious tea.
I was pretty much answering your question regarding how could something clear protect against UV rays. I was offering an example of something extremely effective and common that is clear. Please read your question. So if something clear like SPF suntan lotion can virtually fully block harmful UV rays, can't something else that is clear?

I also stated above that the jars are a type of glass that blocks UV rays. Many types of glass block UV rays, such as the glass in car windows. So, I answered your question indirectly and directly.

So, if you pose a question, and someone answers it ... well that is what a forum is all about even if you do not like the answer.

And btw, I doubt anybody goes to the lengths I go to in order to protect tea. I received these as a gift, and my verdict is still out.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by MimzyCaterpillar » Mar 11th, '10, 21:18

Chip wrote:
MimzyCaterpillar wrote:
Chip wrote:
MimzyCaterpillar wrote:If it is coated, then that is awesome! Definitely would be a great option for displaying the tea. Although since they do not mention it, I highly doubt it and I also highly doubt that there is anything clear that could effectively keep out light and sun.
Did you ever hear of UV protection in sun tan lotions? It seems that it is certain wavelengths of light that is most harmful to tea (as well as skin), and many glass materials block out these rays.

Not that I would stick these out in the sun, but who would? :mrgreen:

Um, what does suntan lotions have to do with uv protected glass? Glass does not prevent all UV rays and if someone is spending money on something why would they want to take a chance. Also house lighting can possibly have effects on the tea. I would rather stick to light tight, air tight, and moisture free tins since I do not wish to degrade my precious tea.
I was pretty much answering your question regarding how could something clear protect against UV rays. I was offering an example of something extremely effective and common that is clear. Please read your question. So if something clear like SPF suntan lotion can virtually fully block harmful UV rays, can't something else that is clear?

I also stated above that the jars are a type of glass that blocks UV rays. Many types of glass block UV rays, such as the glass in car windows.

So, if you pose a question, and someone answers it ... well that is what a forum is all about even if you do not like the answer.

Actually research says that UV glass does not fully block UV rays and when you ride in the car you still can get a suntan, which is proof. Plus that glass is not fully clear. Also, suntan lotion does not block all UV rays, which is why you can get it at different SPF levels. Also, there are UVB rays as well that are harmful.

I was just wondering why a company would offer a product that may be potentially harmful to the teas that they sell. That's all.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by Chip » Mar 11th, '10, 21:31

MimzyCaterpillar wrote:I was just wondering why Adagio would sell clear glass jars when that will degrade the tea? Light will degrade the tea just like it would fade anything with dyes in it. It just doesn't make any sense. Also, I work in a tea store and my job is to inform people about teas so I do know a fair amount of knowledge about teas.
See, here you are making an assumption that is based on a general belief system only. Please show proof for these jars. I am pretty sure that a company with the experience and track record of Adagio would not offer a product that would harm their teas.

Really, what tea store do you work for, since you are using this as a basis for your argument? What is your experience level?

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Re: New Glass Jars

by MimzyCaterpillar » Mar 11th, '10, 22:00

Chip wrote:
MimzyCaterpillar wrote:I was just wondering why Adagio would sell clear glass jars when that will degrade the tea? Light will degrade the tea just like it would fade anything with dyes in it. It just doesn't make any sense. Also, I work in a tea store and my job is to inform people about teas so I do know a fair amount of knowledge about teas.
See, here you are making an assumption that is based on a general belief system only. Please show proof for these jars. I am pretty sure that a company with the experience and track record of Adagio would not offer a product that would harm their teas.

Really, what tea store do you work for, since you are using this as a basis for your argument? What is your experience level?
Well Adagio hasn't given enough info to say that they are supposedly "light proof" so I must not assume that they are. That would be silly. And just because they have an awesome record doesn't mean that they won't sell something that will appeal to customers to make money. Let's be real here. I just wanted to here feedback from others.

And as far as where I work. That is private information that I do not need to give out. I have been working in the field for six years and the place is a small shop. It is part of my career, but I am also an artist.

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Re: New Glass Jars

by Chip » Mar 11th, '10, 22:16

MimzyCaterpillar wrote:
Chip wrote:
MimzyCaterpillar wrote:I was just wondering why Adagio would sell clear glass jars when that will degrade the tea? Light will degrade the tea just like it would fade anything with dyes in it. It just doesn't make any sense. Also, I work in a tea store and my job is to inform people about teas so I do know a fair amount of knowledge about teas.
See, here you are making an assumption that is based on a general belief system only. Please show proof for these jars. I am pretty sure that a company with the experience and track record of Adagio would not offer a product that would harm their teas.

Really, what tea store do you work for, since you are using this as a basis for your argument? What is your experience level?
Well Adagio hasn't given enough info to say that they are supposedly "light proof" so I must not assume that they are. That would be silly. And just because they have an awesome record doesn't mean that they won't sell something that will appeal to customers to make money. Let's be real here. I just wanted to here feedback from others.

And as far as where I work. That is private information that I do not need to give out. I have been working in the field for six years and the place is a small shop. It is part of my career, but I am also an artist.
Which is why someone suggested contacting Adagio directly, can we assume you have done so and also reject their answers?

No, I do not think so. You have made an assumption and have not accepted any other possibility offered here. And you have not contacted Adagio and asked directly? Does this sound fair to you?

What if someone made a claim against your small tea shop, and just decided to fire away without even asking the owners, employees?

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