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Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by Zpro » Apr 21st, '10, 21:04

Hi everyone,
So i bought this ripe cake from my local Chinatown (Montreal) for 20$. All i could say to the woman who i purchased it from was that i had 20$... That is all we were able to both understand (thanks to my very, VERY poor ability to make use of sign language...) so she shows me 2 different 357g cakes, both ripe, and tells me they're 20 each and this one is a bit better so i pick it up.

Here are a couple pics, if they're not good enough quality wise please tell me i will take better ones.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5500/image4v.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8088/image7fx.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/623/image6je.jpg
Sorry for not posting the pics directly on the site but i thought a higher resolution might be useful for reading what is written on the wrapper...(I also dont know how to resize my images to 640 pixels without simply cutting a side off of them)

Also, simply if you know, did i get ripped off (20$CAN)?

THANKS SO MUCH for reading this and at least (im guessing) trying to help me... much appreciated, everyday i wish more and more i would get involved in learning such a beautiful language...

P.S: the same shop that sold me this has about 10 CNNP bricks from the 1950s for 160$CAN each... (They seem to be 250g)

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by Geekgirl » Apr 21st, '10, 21:10

Zpro wrote: Also, simply if you know, did i get ripped off (20$CAN)?
Dunno, does it taste good?

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by AdamMY » Apr 21st, '10, 21:12

Zpro wrote: P.S: the same shop that sold me this has about 10 CNNP bricks from the 1950s for 160$CAN each... (They seem to be 250g)
That is a deal if it is really from the 1950's, though is it marketed as Ripe? Because Ripe puerh has not been around that long.

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by Chip » Apr 21st, '10, 21:37

AdamMY wrote:
Zpro wrote: P.S: the same shop that sold me this has about 10 CNNP bricks from the 1950s for 160$CAN each... (They seem to be 250g)
That is a deal if it is really from the 1950's, though is it marketed as Ripe? Because Ripe puerh has not been around that long.
The space time continuim has been disrupted maybe? About as likely as this ripe pu-erh is from the 1950's at 20 bucks.

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by Geekgirl » Apr 21st, '10, 21:42

Um, guys, I think the original poster means he/she bought a 357g bing of ripe puerh for $20, and the same store also had bricks of 50s CNNP. Not that she BOUGHT the 50s CNNP for $20. :wink:

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by Chip » Apr 21st, '10, 21:45

Geekgirl wrote:Um, guys, I think the original poster means he/she bought a 357g bing of ripe puerh for $20, and the same store also had bricks of 50s CNNP. Not that she BOUGHT the 50s CNNP for $20. :wink:
Oops, pardon me, I am senchaless here and am in a forum I don't belong ... Adam on the other hand had shincha and still lacked enlightenment. :lol:

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by nonc_ron » Apr 21st, '10, 21:52

Geekgirl wrote:
Zpro wrote: Also, simply if you know, did i get ripped off (20$CAN)?
Dunno, does it taste good?
ImageYou hit the nail on the head. :lol:

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by Zpro » Apr 21st, '10, 22:04

Thanks for the reply's,
So i did some tasting over the last 10 minutes and wow its very good (i am a beginner so my opinion probably isn't very developed...) anyways, the clarity is like water the color is a dark burgundy red, smells of fruits, slight smokiness and a very prominent scent of medicinal herbs, like when you walk in those Chinese traditional medicine places hahaha...

Yes thanks for clarification geekgirl, i payed 20$ can for a 357g ripe cake that was pressed in 2007 (that i am still seeking info on if anyone saw the pics) BUT i added that the same store that sold me this has about a dozen 250g CNNP raw aged bricks from the 1950s for 160$ can (each clearly...). The guy kept telling me that they were pre-revolution, which would make sense, but he didn't tell me much else. Maybe next time I go, I will ask them if I can take a couple of pictures to show you guys if anyone's interested.

I am really glad with the purchase, its really good tasting and very relaxing. Glad to know I have got about 350g of it left.

But i'm still seeking info on it if anyone has... if not i will enjoy it just the same hehe :D

Thanks for reading everyone, much appreciated!

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by TomVerlain » Apr 21st, '10, 22:29

7262 on the wrapper recalls meng hai's classic recipe. And if it is similar to meng hai's tea, $20 CN for a 2007 cake is a bit high. If you like it, $20 is fine. You can drink a lot of tea for the money.

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by thanks » Apr 21st, '10, 22:34

TomVerlain wrote:7262 on the wrapper recalls meng hai's classic recipe. And if it is similar to meng hai's tea, $20 CN for a 2007 cake is a bit high. If you like it, $20 is fine. You can drink a lot of tea for the money.
Yes it looks to be an homage to the 7262 recipe created by Menghai Dayi. The 7262 recipe is usually heavier in fermentation with a thick strongly flavored liquor.

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by tenuki » Apr 22nd, '10, 00:18

decent deal on the cake, by the time you ship something of that grade it would be about the same from just about anywhere, and you wouldn't have a chance to taste it, which IMO is worth more than gold.

Ask if you can sample the bricks - 160 is a decent price if they are older than the 80s. But don't buy them just cause they are old, buy them cause they taste $160/250g to you.. ;) Those bricks are impossible to tell exactly year wise for most people, IMO most vendors fudge their age and get away with it.

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by gingkoseto » Apr 22nd, '10, 00:30

The 7262 makes me feel uncomfortable about this product. It's not a standard number, but overlaps a real standard number. What impression did they intend to make by putting the number there?

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by beachape » Apr 22nd, '10, 00:41

I have no idea about that cake. But if you consider the high price of shipping, and the fun time you had at the shop...the most you could possibly have gotten ripped off is 5-10 bucks.

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by tenuki » Apr 22nd, '10, 01:22

gingko wrote:The 7262 makes me feel uncomfortable about this product. It's not a standard number, but overlaps a real standard number. What impression did they intend to make by putting the number there?
How can you speak so authoritatively and yet be so wrong? 7262 is my favorite da yi shu recipe.

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Re: Please help identifying (if you have nothing to do...)

by thanks » Apr 22nd, '10, 02:25

tenuki wrote:
gingko wrote:The 7262 makes me feel uncomfortable about this product. It's not a standard number, but overlaps a real standard number. What impression did they intend to make by putting the number there?
How can you speak so authoritatively and yet be so wrong? 7262 is my favorite da yi shu recipe.
I agree in that 7262 is also my favorite Dayi shu recipe, but I think gingko meant the factory being dishonest by trying to trick people into thinking their cake is the genuine 7262.

In my experience, "recreations" of famous recipes is a fairly common practice, but most of the time they are fairly clear about it being a recreation from their factory. The 12 Gents 7572 is a great example of this, along with a handful of Haiwan releases throughout the years. Mengyang Guoyan is another recognizable brand that has done this (albeit with their own two digit numbers) while describing their tea as being their version of 7542 for example. These are just a few examples. As far as the dishonest factories trying to pass off their stuff as something else, well here is just one of countless examples; http://www.puerhshop.com/index.php?main ... cts_id=925

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