Need advise on a couple of teapots

[manyfridays]

I have a couple of YiXing teapots, but am told that I shouldn't miss tea in them. I drink mostly green tea, but also have oolong and pu-erh also.

Read that YiXing isn't the best for green tea and that porcelain/glass is better.

I am planning to use this new teapot as a go-to for all type of teas.

Looking for a quality teapot and found these two which looks pretty good. I like the simplicity. Thoughts(?):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ru-Kiln-Moon-White- ... 3f0861fca4

http://cgi.ebay.com/Jingdezhen-White-Po ... 35a4b68e5f

What's the brewing difference between celadon and porcelain?

[iannon]

I dont think you are going to see any noticeable difference in white glazed porcelain vs. celadon glazed porcelain. what types of teas will you be brewing in general? you mentioned green. I assume chinese greens mainly?

[manyfridays]

I'm relatively new in drinking tea. So for the time being, mostly Japanese green tea. Sencha.

[iannon]

I'm relatively new in drinking tea. So for the time being, mostly Japanese green tea. Sencha.

personally i would get neither of those for japanese greens. you would end up with a cup full of sencha mush or having to use another strainer between pot and cup. if you want a glazed pot for japanese greens you could check out the couple at Den's. otherwise you are looking at tokoname type pots for the most part which usually are not glazed inside. check out artistic nippon for some nice hand made ones.

[Chip]

Then why not get a Japanese kyusu?

[manyfridays]

I'm relatively new in drinking tea. So for the time being, mostly Japanese green tea. Sencha.

personally i would get neither of those for japanese greens. you would end up with a cup full of sencha mush or having to use another strainer between pot and cup. if you want a glazed pot for japanese greens you could check out the couple at Den's. otherwise you are looking at tokoname type pots for the most part which usually are not glazed inside. check out artistic nippon for some nice hand made ones.

Can you explain why those teapot will result in the "sencha mush" and how the tokoname type pots can solve that problem. Looking at the inside of some of those pots, I don't get how the "filter" is any better.

Also, I was looking at a "nonporous" teapot because I'd like to be able to use it to make all kinds of tea: green, white, oolong, pu-erh, etc. I read that mixing tea in a porous/YiXing teapot isn't recommended.

[iannon]

I'm relatively new in drinking tea. So for the time being, mostly Japanese green tea. Sencha.

personally i would get neither of those for japanese greens. you would end up with a cup full of sencha mush or having to use another strainer between pot and cup. if you want a glazed pot for japanese greens you could check out the couple at Den's. otherwise you are looking at tokoname type pots for the most part which usually are not glazed inside. check out artistic nippon for some nice hand made ones.

Can you explain why those teapot will result in the "sencha mush" and how the tokoname type pots can solve that problem. Looking at the inside of some of those pots, I don't get how the "filter" is any better.

Also, I was looking at a "nonporous" teapot because I'd like to be able to use it to make all kinds of tea: green, white, oolong, pu-erh, etc. I read that mixing tea in a porous/YiXing teapot isn't recommended.

those pots would be better suited to larger leaf teas.Those filter holes are quite large. Japanese sencha is of course steamed and much more broken up in general. so you need a filter like the one here:
http://www.artisticnippon.com/product/t ... imple.html
or an even finer one like the stainless ones on the den's pots here
http://www.denstea.com/teapots-cups-tea ... 5_285.html

[Chip]

If you are going to brew sencha type teas, you will want more than 5 holes, and the holes should be smaller.

You are correct in that it is best not to do too much cross brewing with porous clay pots.

EDIT: oops, Ian beat me to it ...

[bagua7]

I'm relatively new in drinking tea. So for the time being, mostly Japanese green tea. Sencha.

Not only you lack correct manners in the thread you opened about specific uses of Yixing teapot but you also come back enquiring whether a celadon pot is suitable to brew sencha! Amazing. I hope your Google research skills are better than your questions.

Good luck.

[Chip]

I'm relatively new in drinking tea. So for the time being, mostly Japanese green tea. Sencha.

Not only you lack correct manners in the thread you opened about specific uses of Yixing teapot but you also come back enquiring whether a celadon pot is suitable to brew sencha! Amazing. I hope your Google research skills are better than your questions.

Good luck.

Manners? I did not see anything wrong with the OP's manners. However you were a bit snarky ...

I just see a newbie trying to figure out brewing vessels, we have all been there!!!

[hopeofdawn]

Not only you lack correct manners in the thread you opened about specific uses of Yixing teapot but you also come back enquiring whether a celadon pot is suitable to brew sencha! Amazing. I hope your Google research skills are better than your questions.

I have to agree--that's pretty unnecessarily harsh, especially for someone who's just trying to figure out the best pot to use.

For what it's worth, I have a couple different porcelain pots with the bigger holes in the spout--so when I brew sencha, I just use an extra mesh filter over the cup to catch the extra bits of leaf. Works fine, and I don't have to buy (and store) and extra pot for when I switch between different teas ...

[Chip]

... yeah, that will work too, as long as you can get the leaves back in the pot for successive steeps ...

[hopeofdawn]

... yeah, that will work too, as long as you can get the leaves back in the pot for successive steeps ...

Well, I try to knock what I can back into the pot, but the majority of the leaf stays in there anyway, so I mostly just consider the little bit that escapes a sacrifice to the tea gods ... Honestly, when it comes to sencha I have more problems cleaning the leaf out of the pot after I'm done brewing! With bigger leaves I can just turn over the pot and tap them out, but that doesn't work so well with sencha--I pretty much have to get down and dirty and scoop it out.

[Proinsias]

Could you use your 2 yixing for puer and oolong and buy a kyusu?

If not I would get a 100ml gaiwan for Chinese/Taiwanese tea
something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Zhen-Chang-Shun-Whi ... 35a4f43444
They're cheap and likely to become your best friend when exploring oolong and puer

and a kyusu for green teas, you can brew your Chinese greens in both!

As others have mentioned the brewing difference is likely to be negligible between porcelain and celadon. Thickness of the walls, dimensions of the pot and the pour rate will likely hold much more sway.

*edit* something like this might cover all bases:
http://www.hibiki-an.com/product_info.p ... cts_id/656

[manyfridays]

Thanks everyone. The "filter" note was helpful. I like the teapots without the steel mesh filters for its simplicity.