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Yixing, chaozhou, jian shui

by Andrew15_06 » Feb 24th, '15, 20:54

Hi all,

So I'm curious what everyone knows about the different clays for the teapots. I've come across what I was told were yixing clay that were made to look like chaozhou. I thought yixing couldn't be spun? Jian shui I would've guessed couldn't be spun but the ones I've seen are. Jian shui and chaozhou seem less porous.

Also, what about duan ni, zhu ni, and zisha these are all just based on color but are all yixing clay right? Any suggestions on types of clay pots for types of tea? I love yixing for all my teas mostly.

Thanks,
Andrew

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Re: Yixing, chaozhou, jian shui

by AT333 » Feb 24th, '15, 21:06

Andrew15_06 wrote:Hi all,

So I'm curious what everyone knows about the different clays for the teapots. I've come across what I was told were yixing clay that were made to look like chaozhou. I thought yixing couldn't be spun? Jian shui I would've guessed couldn't be spun but the ones I've seen are. Jian shui and chaozhou seem less porous.

Also, what about duan ni, zhu ni, and zisha these are all just based on color but are all yixing clay right? Any suggestions on types of clay pots for types of tea? I love yixing for all my teas mostly.

Thanks,
Andrew

Andrew,

All the absolute answers and secrets about Yixing are found here:

http://terebess.hu/english/yixing1.html

http://www.kyarazen.com/secrets-choosin ... g-teapots/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yixing_clay_teapot

Hope that helps. :wink:

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Re: Yixing, chaozhou, jian shui

by Andrew15_06 » Mar 18th, '15, 12:43

Thanks!! These are great resources!!!

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Re: Yixing, chaozhou, jian shui

by bagua7 » Mar 18th, '15, 13:43

Andrew15_06 wrote:Jian shui and chaozhou seem less porous.
Hi,

Chao Zhou are a lot more porous than Yixing. Terrible pots to use they even erase the harshest of young raw puerh.

No idea about the other but seem to behave nearly like porcelain. I don't think they are very popular in this forum as yet have to see anyone giving a thorough review about brewing tea using this type of pottery.

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Re: Yixing, chaozhou, jian shui

by Tead Off » Mar 18th, '15, 23:01

bagua7 wrote:
Andrew15_06 wrote:Jian shui and chaozhou seem less porous.
Hi,

Chao Zhou are a lot more porous than Yixing. Terrible pots to use they even erase the harshest of young raw puerh.

No idea about the other but seem to behave nearly like porcelain. I don't think they are very popular in this forum as yet have to see anyone giving a thorough review about brewing tea using this type of pottery.
Once again, you are making statements that have little validity. I have and use a couple of Chao Zhou pots quite successfully for Taiwan gaoshan and some Dancong.

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Re: Yixing, chaozhou, jian shui

by bagua7 » Mar 19th, '15, 23:38

Interesting! I used chao zhou for Taiwan oolong and the pots almost turned the tea into hot water. Haven't used these particular pots with dan congs but wasn't very happy with their performance with raw puerh. Pots wete quite young, 2000s clay, maybe you are using a totally different batch?

Anyway Chaozhou are a lot more porous than Yixings and in my particular case they didn't retain the heat that well due to also being quite soft.

Colours used were reddish, black and orange (three different pots I no longer have), similar to zhuni.

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Re: Yixing, chaozhou, jian shui

by Tead Off » Mar 20th, '15, 00:00

bagua7 wrote:Interesting! I used chao zhou for Taiwan oolong and the pots almost turned the tea into hot water. Haven't used these particular pots with dan congs but wasn't very happy with their performance with raw puerh. Pots wete quite young, 2000s clay, maybe you are using a totally different batch?

Anyway Chaozhou are a lot more porous than Yixings and in my particular case they didn't retain the heat that well due to also being quite soft.

Colours used were reddish, black and orange (three different pots I no longer have), similar to zhuni.
Lumping every Chaozhou pot into the same category after using 3 (probably new and cheap commercial ones) is not a very accurate way of analyzing the genre. There are clearly inferior pots in every type of pottery including Yixing. Why conclude that all Chaozhou pots are like the ones you happened to have used? This is a poor argument that can only lead to misinformation.

My favorite pot for gaoshan happens to be a Chaozhou pot I've used for 25 years.

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