仿大彬 yixing.

[Hmm]

I just bought 2 yixings from an antique shop for pretty cheap. The guy didn't know much about them at all. In fact he had no clue. But he told me he had bought a collection from an estate sale. The original owner was supposedly a diplomat. He also told me that some Chinese people earlier had bought several of the pots to take back home to China.

Some of the pots didn't look very high quality. So I just took the 仿大彬 yixing pot, and one that simply had a 中国宜兴 stamp on it. The 仿大彬 pot isn't stamped on, but simply carved in on the bottom.

I'm hoping if they are fake that they are at least from the 80s, since I assume at that time the clay was a little better than what you can get nowadays. I'm thinking of course the 仿大彬 pot is fake since fang means to copy. But is it normal to actually write “仿"?

Right now it's night time, so I can't take any photos, but will update this post tomorrow with actual photos.

Thanks.

[kyarazen]

I just bought 2 yixings from an antique shop for pretty cheap. The guy didn't know much about them at all. In fact he had no clue. But he told me he had bought a collection from an estate sale. The original owner was supposedly a diplomat. He also told me that some Chinese people earlier had bought several of the pots to take back home to China.

Some of the pots didn't look very high quality. So I just took the 仿大彬 yixing pot, and one that simply had a 中国宜兴 stamp on it. The 仿大彬 pot isn't stamped on, but simply carved in on the bottom.

I'm hoping if they are fake that they are at least from the 80s, since I assume at that time the clay was a little better than what you can get nowadays. I'm thinking of course the 仿大彬 pot is fake since fang means to copy. But is it normal to actually write “仿"?

Right now it's night time, so I can't take any photos, but will update this post tomorrow with actual photos.

Thanks.

yes, because

da bin refers to ming dynasty pot master shi da bin.

and everyone has been mimicking his ideas, works etc, so "Fang" da bin does exist... except that the modern maker was probably honest enough to put the word "fang"

if its "da bin " seal, most probably someone could consider dropping it into some mud, or some open tomb and pretend it is excavated

[Hmm]

So I posted two albums on imgur. One of the fang dabin, and the other of the zhongguo yixing.

Can you tell me if the quality of them are any good or possibly how old they may be?

Fang Dabin
http://imgur.com/a/4C1Io#0

I notice the lid is incorrect on the Fang Dabin, and so I am going to have to go back and see if they have the right lid. Also what are those upward streaks inside the pot that are darker colored. They aren't carved in.

Zhongguo Yixing
http://imgur.com/a/dYo1V#0

Also how does one tell the difference between Zhuni or Hongni?

[Hmm]

Can anyone help me figure out what these vertical lines are inside the 仿大彬 pot are?

[tingjunkie]

To me the pots look modern. Post 80's anyway. The lines inside are just tooling marks from when the potter was cleaning things up on the inside.

As far as zhuni vs hong ni, zhuni is a type of hong ni in which the particle size of the clay is smaller, there is more shrinkage during firing, the surface of the fired clay is smoother and can often show shrinkage (or "muscle") lines, and the pot will have a high pitched ring when touching the lid to the body. There is also a color difference too, but due to being red/green colorblind, I'm not as good at picking up on that. Telling the difference just comes with experience.

[Hmm]

To me the pots look modern. Post 80's anyway. The lines inside are just tooling marks from when the potter was cleaning things up on the inside.

As far as zhuni vs hong ni, zhuni is a type of hong ni in which the particle size of the clay is smaller, there is more shrinkage during firing, the surface of the fired clay is smoother and can often show shrinkage (or "muscle") lines, and the pot will have a high pitched ring when touching the lid to the body. There is also a color difference too, but due to being red/green colorblind, I'm not as good at picking up on that. Telling the difference just comes with experience.

Do you happen to have any photos of "muscle lines"?

I guess the Fang Dabin pot isn't Zhuni, since the grains seem pretty large. In addition, it doesn't sound very high fired, since the ring isn't very high pitched. So is the pot neither hongni or Zhuni? Are Hongni's ever simply low fired?

[tingjunkie]

See the bottom pic here.

[Evan Draper]

I'm scared of that Fang Dabin mismatch lid. Find a better Ju Lun Zhu replacement.