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Stonewares of Yixing K.S. Lo error?

by heliospace » Aug 11th, '15, 15:24

Hey there tea loving friends!

I was curious, in Stonewares of Yixing, K.S. Lo has the name "Cheng Jinshou" listed as the son of Cheng Shouzhen and Cheng Pan'gen as his grandson. Is it safe to say that this is an error? And if so, who is Cheng Jinshou? From what was just referenced to me, Cheng Pan'gen is Cheng Shouzhen's son? And then who is Cheng Jinshou listed in the book? Cheng Shoujin? ;) Similar sounding from what I'm aware in Chinese... hmmm

I ask because I have a late qing or early republic tea set inscribed by Qitao and the stamp on the bottom of the teapot is Bingxin daoren (Cheng Shouzen) while we're still trying to figure out what the stamp is inside the lid of the teapot, but it most resembles through referencing Cheng Pan'gen, however, it is not quite clear yet if it is indeed Cheng Pan'gen's due to how little the stamp inside the lid is visible.

Any cross referencing would be appreciated. Thank you!!!

Aaron

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Re: Stonewares of Yixing K.S. Lo error?

by heliospace » Aug 11th, '15, 20:09

So, I finally found that a red marker worked best for trying to get the inside lid stamp to show. I've tried so many other different ways over the past couple months and nothing worked, and today, somehow, it worked well with a red marker, although not very clear, much clearer than it has ever been before.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt11 ... bfbluh.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt11 ... yxkxf5.jpg

If anybody wants to take a chance, go for it. I've exhausted all of my references.

Cheers!

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Re: Stonewares of Yixing K.S. Lo error?

by kyarazen » Aug 11th, '15, 21:55

indeed in modern day there are strong evidences that there are inaccuracies in KS Lo's book, including the dating of some of the pots and the relevant authenticities but it is not my playing field to investigate these assertions at the moment.

cheng pan gen is the son of cheng shou cheng
from what i know in the chinese/taiwanese forums, it is very well circulated that CPG was still using his dad's seals on pots he made, and that the experts rely on the overall shape, workmanship, lines, "character" etc to determine whether the pot is really by CSC or CPG (since CPG's stuff is inferior to his dad's craft). but for more detailed informations and the skill to discern etc, it could be better to ask the more senior collectors for help, especially since facebook is connecting the world so well these days

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