yixing pot purchase

[manolis1978]

Hello. i' m trying hard to find a shop to buy a yixing pot, but is extremely difficult to even find which clay is a good and quality clay, which pot is made from a potter, which is fake, which has been made properly. So i want your help. I want to buy a pot around 200 $. The vendor I buy tea is www.teavivre.com. I found these pots
http://www.teavivre.com/antique-yixing-zisha-teapot/
http://www.teavivre.com/handmade-xiao-y ... ha-teapot/

I want to know if these pots its worth its money. if dont. could you please tell me a vendor.

I have saved to my favorite these site. Are good shops

https://www.essenceoftea.com/
http://www.jingteashop.com/
http://www.tea-masters.com/en/

thank you in advanced

[steanze]

Hello. i' m trying hard to find a shop to buy a yixing pot, but is extremely difficult to even find which clay is a good and quality clay, which pot is made from a potter, which is fake, which has been made properly. So i want your help. I want to buy a pot around 200 $. The vendor I buy tea is http://www.teavivre.com. I found these pots
http://www.teavivre.com/antique-yixing-zisha-teapot/
http://www.teavivre.com/handmade-xiao-y ... ha-teapot/

I want to know if these pots its worth its money. if dont. could you please tell me a vendor.

I have saved to my favorite these site. Are good shops

https://www.essenceoftea.com/
http://www.jingteashop.com/
http://www.tea-masters.com/en/

thank you in advanced

Those pots are not worth the money IMO. Essence of tea is a bit pricey but has better pots. Most importantly, what tea do you want to make?

[theredbaron]

Indeed. These pots are not worth the money.
You also want to think about size. If you mostly drink alone pots in the size of 60 to 100 ml are better suited. There is less wastage of tea. Essence of tea has good pots, worth the money, especially the recent Factory 1 pot offers (which sold out very quickly).
To start, pots by this ebay seller are quite OK as well: http://www.ebay.com/usr/lukevecent They are modern pots, and do not cost the world.

[theredbaron]

Oh, and http://www.chawangshop.com/index.php/ has also many pots for reasonable prices

[manolis1978]

i prefer oolong tea. escpecially Da hong Pao and some moderately TGY. I drink alone. \every day I drink tea in my work using porcelain pot 250 ml. But suterday and sunnday in my house i use a tea set that i have bought from ebay. for 80 $ that i pay is good but i am not satisfied. The set has 1 porcelain pot about 100ml, a gaiwan about 80 ml and some other stuff, but the quality is copletly rubbish.

Thinking about that i bought a set 80$ from porcelain and i am not satisfied i am afraid that the purchase of a good yixing pot is risky,

for the pot that i want i think a pot around 60- 100 ml as you say is good. If i know that the yixing pot is really good i can spent also 250$.

[theredbaron]

i prefer oolong tea. escpecially Da hong Pao and some moderately TGY. I drink alone. \every day I drink tea in my work using porcelain pot 250 ml. But suterday and sunnday in my house i use a tea set that i have bought from ebay. for 80 $ that i pay is good but i am not satisfied. The set has 1 porcelain pot about 100ml, a gaiwan about 80 ml and some other stuff, but the quality is copletly rubbish.

Thinking about that i bought a set 80$ from porcelain and i am not satisfied i am afraid that the purchase of a good yixing pot is risky,

for the pot that i want i think a pot around 60- 100 ml as you say is good. If i know that the yixing pot is really good i can spent also 250$.

In a new pot, the difference between, lets say, 60$ and 250$, as regards to the quality of the tea it will brew, will not be noticeable. Pots from very special clays and/or famous makers will be anyhow far more expensive nowadays. The late 80's/early 90's factory one pots of essence of tea which sold for 78 pounds most definitely are much better than any of the new pots in the price range mentioned.
In the end, you will inevitably get more than one pot. You'll have a pot each for the different categories of tea, and as you go along your tea journey you will get another pot here and there.

If you want a pot that makes good tea, is real yixing, i would suggest one of these two pots, for example, or both:

https://www.essenceoftea.com/teaware/cl ... -moon.html
https://www.essenceoftea.com/teaware/cl ... -long.html

They are factory 5, good clay, won't cost the world, and will make good tea - which is the important thing here. I would have no issues against using them.

[steanze]

I'd stick with hongni for oolongs. Wait until you find a good hongni pot (F1)

[theredbaron]

I'd stick with hongni for oolongs. Wait until you find a good hongni pot (F1)

But then he may have to wait for quite a while. It's not that often that Factory 1 pots are available over the net from a reputable source, and there are many well done fakes around. The two pots i mentioned will be a major improvement over porcelain pots, and can, when a better pot is found, serve well as pots for liu bao, etc.
Sometimes i think people can be a bit too particular over clay types. Tea leaves and water make a far bigger difference than the exact clay type. Factory 5 pots are not bad pots at all.

[steanze]

I'd stick with hongni for oolongs. Wait until you find a good hongni pot (F1)

But then he may have to wait for quite a while. It's not that often that Factory 1 pots are available over the net from a reputable source, and there are many well done fakes around. The two pots i mentioned will be a major improvement over porcelain pots, and can, when a better pot is found, serve well as pots for liu bao, etc.
Sometimes i think people can be a bit too particular over clay types. Tea leaves and water make a far bigger difference than the exact clay type. Factory 5 pots are not bad pots at all.

I actually would prefer a porcelain gaiwan over those pots for yancha this is not because they are bad pots (they would be a huge improvement over porcelain for aged pu-erh), but because I am not a fan of the pairing. It is also a matter of personal preference though. Also my impression is that there's a lot of very heavily roasted yancha around in the western market, even at high prices. For yancha with such a high roast level I would see the point of zini to remove some of the burnt flavor, but then I would probably prefer to skip yancha and drink other teas.

It is true that finding a good F1 hongni would take time. If I really had to get an Yixing for yancha right now on the western market, I'd probably go for something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/authentic-Chine ... SwX~dWi7gd or this http://www.ebay.com/itm/authentic-Chine ... SwoJZXSFno

[ricegeek]

I think this vendor also has some good yixing pots within your price range, like this factory 1 shuiping, https://www.ebay.com/itm/262263291857.

[theredbaron]

I actually would prefer a porcelain gaiwan over those pots for yancha this is not because they are bad pots (they would be a huge improvement over porcelain for aged pu-erh), but because I am not a fan of the pairing. It is also a matter of personal preference though. Also my impression is that there's a lot of very heavily roasted yancha around in the western market, even at high prices. For yancha with such a high roast level I would see the point of zini to remove some of the burnt flavor, but then I would probably prefer to skip yancha and drink other teas.

It is true that finding a good F1 hongni would take time. If I really had to get an Yixing for yancha right now on the western market, I'd probably go for something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/authentic-Chine ... SwX~dWi7gd or this http://www.ebay.com/itm/authentic-Chine ... SwoJZXSFno

I have bought one of these modern "zhuni" pots, just to see. Not terrible in any way, they brew a good tea, and are better than many pots sold over the net, and for a much better price. However, i have also bought one of the factory 5 Hong Pi Long pots - a small Shui Ping (i have always liked Shui Ping pots) with very good workmanship and i found it better, also with Yancha.
Maybe it's because i like older pots more than modern ones, especially older factory pots. I haven't got by far as many as some others here, whose knowledge on pots is clearly superior than mine, but i have a few factory 1 pots from the 60's throughout to the 90's (i was lucky that i began drinking Chinese tea 25 years ago when pots were much cheaper), and some factory 2 pots, and factory 5, and some who i have no idea about where they were made.
But then - there is also the issue of skill. My tea teacher many years ago had a Qing Dynasty Duan Ni pot (at least i think it was Duan Ni), and he always brewed Yancha with it, and with his skill he brewed far better Yancha from this Qing pot than i can ever hope to achieve in any pot.
I just think that there are more important factors to consider than the particular clay type, especially for people who are just starting off. Having a factory pot, even if it is just from the late factory era is something that in a few years isn't that easy to get anymore, especially when one does not live in one of the tea centers such as Malaysia or Taiwan and has to depend on what is sold over the net to the western market.

[theredbaron]

I think this vendor also has some good yixing pots within your price range, like this factory 1 shuiping, https://www.ebay.com/itm/262263291857.

220$ for a last factory 1 period Shui Ping is crazy (plus 40$ shipping to my part of the world). Sorry.

[stevorama]

I have one of the Factory 5 hong pi long teapots from EOT. I like it. I would say the clay has a rounding effect (as compared to hong ni) which suits my use with puer well.

So are modern zhu ni pots actually made of zhu ni? Or are they made to resemble zhu ni in form and/or function?

[manolis1978]

I think that i agree wirh you theredbaron. The first think is the brew, somethink that is difficult. The best is to have a pot which dont smell unpleasant. I understand that i must buy first a pot from factrory 1 or 5 about 70 $ and after that and much experience will buy somethink better.

[manolis1978]

I think that i agree wirh you theredbaron. The first think is the brew, somethink that is difficult. The best is to have a pot which dont smell unpleasant. I understand that i must buy first a pot from factrory 1 or 5 about 70 $ and after that and much experience will buy somethink better.