The result: a nice refreshing drink, kind of like tonic without the sugar. I imagine with a bit of simple syrup it would be even more similar.
Might be a better recipe for summer, but I thought I'd share

It doesn't--the second part of my reply was about tea.Groucho wrote:I didn't think kuding came from camellia sinensis?
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About once a week or so.ethan wrote:Do you drink kuding often?
It's Ilex kaushue, that's why I posted in the herbal section.Groucho wrote:I didn't think kuding came from camellia sinensis?
Kuding is definitely a stronger stimulant than tea. The intensity of flavour from briefly infusing just a single nail is a pretty good hint of that. I can see how it wouldn't be good for caffeine sensitive people, especially since it doesn't have the theanine content of tea.jayinhk wrote:Might be good with gin.Unfortunately I can't drink kuding--makes my heart feel funny and gives me palpitations. I'm sensitive to stimulants in general. Tea has some powerful compounds in it that neutralize the effects of caffeine on my heart. Gotta love the camellia sinensis!
I've been wondering if there's more to tea's calming effects than just theanine...perhaps compounds that haven't yet been identified. I'm glad I can drink something with caffeine, at least. Coffee and mate are no go for me now, but tea is still fine (knock on wood)! I do like the taste of kuding too and bought some very nice stuff in Hainan, where it is widely grown and consumed. I think I'll put it up for sale on the site in 8g packs.entropyembrace wrote:About once a week or so.ethan wrote:Do you drink kuding often?
It's Ilex kaushue, that's why I posted in the herbal section.Groucho wrote:I didn't think kuding came from camellia sinensis?
Kuding is definitely a stronger stimulant than tea. The intensity of flavour from briefly infusing just a single nail is a pretty good hint of that. I can see how it wouldn't be good for caffeine sensitive people, especially since it doesn't have the theanine content of tea.jayinhk wrote:Might be good with gin.Unfortunately I can't drink kuding--makes my heart feel funny and gives me palpitations. I'm sensitive to stimulants in general. Tea has some powerful compounds in it that neutralize the effects of caffeine on my heart. Gotta love the camellia sinensis!
I really enjoy the intense herbal bitterness followed by sweet aftertaste, makes for a fun drink. It does wonders for clearing up sinus congestion from environment allergies too.
I don't drink alcohol so I won't be the one to try mixing with gin either
That could be, tea is amazingly complex chemically. So, I wouldn't the surprised at all if there's more going on that we have no idea about still.jayinhk wrote:
I've been wondering if there's more to tea's calming effects than just theanine...perhaps compounds that haven't yet been identified. I'm glad I can drink something with caffeine, at least. Coffee and mate are no go for me now, but tea is still fine (knock on wood)! I do like the taste of kuding too and bought some very nice stuff in Hainan, where it is widely grown and consumed. I think I'll put it up for sale on the site in 8g packs.