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Teapot ID

by stevorama » Jan 24th, '17, 21:52

Appreciate any info about this one. Supposedly from the 80s. Brews lovely tea.
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Re: Teapot ID

by steanze » Jan 25th, '17, 23:45

stevorama wrote:Appreciate any info about this one. Supposedly from the 80s. Brews lovely tea.
Looks like a modern pot, probably 2000s or later. The clay looks reasonable, I'd expect it to make good tea :)

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Re: Teapot ID

by stevorama » Jan 26th, '17, 00:11

steanze wrote:Looks like a modern pot, probably 2000s or later. The clay looks reasonable, I'd expect it to make good tea :)
What makes you say modern pot?

Just to add some detail, the interior is a bit rough with a single hole. There are some flaws, under the lid handle and a burst bubble (or something) on the exterior. I imagine this is best suited for oolong (which I don't drink much of), but the clay works remarkable well with pu erh.

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Re: Teapot ID

by steanze » Jan 26th, '17, 12:38

1. There is a style of 1970s to 80s F1 qingshuini pots that had roughly similar shape and characters on the side, but the shape of the 70s to 80s F1 pots is different and the 70s to 80s qing shui ni is darker and smoother.
2. There are a lot of imitations of those 70s to 80s F1 pots around.
3. I have seen lots of post 2000s pots with clay that looks just like your pot. Never seen an 80s pot with clay that looks like that, either in person or in books about Yixing.

Based on these considerations, my guess is that it's a post 2000s imitation of a 70s to 80s qsn F1 pot. I might be wrong though, I'd say probably 60-70% chances that it's post 2000s, 20-30% that it's 1990s and 10% that it's 1980s.

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Re: Teapot ID

by stevorama » Jan 26th, '17, 15:05

steanze wrote:1. There is a style of 1970s to 80s F1 qingshuini pots that had roughly similar shape and characters on the side, but the shape of the 70s to 80s F1 pots is different and the 70s to 80s qing shui ni is darker and smoother.
2. There are a lot of imitations of those 70s to 80s F1 pots around.
3. I have seen lots of post 2000s pots with clay that looks just like your pot. Never seen an 80s pot with clay that looks like that, either in person or in books about Yixing.

Based on these considerations, my guess is that it's a post 2000s imitation of a 70s to 80s qsn F1 pot. I might be wrong though, I'd say probably 60-70% chances that it's post 2000s, 20-30% that it's 1990s and 10% that it's 1980s.
Very informative! Thanks for that detail.

The only similar teapot I've seen is here: https://teaism99.com/2014/05/

I bought this from a local tea shop with generally quality wares. Supposedly was from a handful of uncovered 80's teapots from a supplier. Caveat emptor of course! :D There was a matching qing hui ni (green-ish) teapot with amazingly thin walls. The interior finish (single hole and rougher than 90's or 2000's teapots I've seen) and clay quality led me to think it could be 80's. Regardless, it performs well. Although I'm still not sure the best tea match for it.

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Re: Teapot ID

by steanze » Jan 26th, '17, 16:21

stevorama wrote: Very informative! Thanks for that detail.

The only similar teapot I've seen is here: https://teaism99.com/2014/05/

I bought this from a local tea shop with generally quality wares. Supposedly was from a handful of uncovered 80's teapots from a supplier. Caveat emptor of course! :D There was a matching qing hui ni (green-ish) teapot with amazingly thin walls. The interior finish (single hole and rougher than 90's or 2000's teapots I've seen) and clay quality led me to think it could be 80's. Regardless, it performs well. Although I'm still not sure the best tea match for it.
Nice, I did not catch that teaism had posted one of the 70s ones :) that's a good example of what I was saying about the clay. His photos are always so beautiful.

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Re: Teapot ID

by stevorama » Jan 26th, '17, 16:33

steanze wrote:Nice, I did not catch that teaism had posted one of the 70s ones :) that's a good example of what I was saying about the clay. His photos are always so beautiful.
Yes, his photos (and teawares) are amazing. The etchings and calligraphy on his teapots have distinctive contrast. I've wondered if that's due to his photographic skill or how he treats his teapots.
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Re: Teapot ID

by kyarazen » Jan 26th, '17, 21:08

stevorama wrote:
steanze wrote:Looks like a modern pot, probably 2000s or later. The clay looks reasonable, I'd expect it to make good tea :)
What makes you say modern pot?

Just to add some detail, the interior is a bit rough with a single hole. There are some flaws, under the lid handle and a burst bubble (or something) on the exterior. I imagine this is best suited for oolong (which I don't drink much of), but the clay works remarkable well with pu erh.
the proportions, the way the spout is made, the lid mould.. carving.. it tends towards the recent..

if it is a large pot.. for F1 such pots have a 2 x 3 vertical filter arrangement,

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Re: Teapot ID

by stevorama » Jan 26th, '17, 21:37

kyarazen wrote:the proportions, the way the spout is made, the lid mould.. carving.. it tends towards the recent..

if it is a large pot.. for F1 such pots have a 2 x 3 vertical filter arrangement,
ah, very interesting. thanks!

it is about 145ml, so not that large.

do you know the name of this style?

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Re: Teapot ID

by jayinhk » Jan 26th, '17, 21:39

Here are pics of one of the F1 knockoffs I picked up in a similar style: two hole, three hole then two hole (seven holes total) configuration inside. The seal inside the lid is a dead giveaway to me now, but before I bought it, I didn't pay enough attention to the way it was applied. With the real 70s pots, the characters aren't anywhere nearly as deeply impressed and you don't see the blocky shape of the stamp used.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPwFVACD1H3 ... e.hk&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPwFZ-RjO8f ... e.hk&hl=en

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Re: Teapot ID

by stevorama » Jan 26th, '17, 21:45

jayinhk wrote:Here are pics of one of the F1 knockoffs I picked up in a similar style: two hole, three hole then two hole (seven holes total) configuration inside.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPwFVACD1H3 ... e.hk&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPwFZ-RjO8f ... e.hk&hl=en
Is that different clay inside and out? Have you brewed with it?

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Re: Teapot ID

by jayinhk » Jan 26th, '17, 22:02

stevorama wrote:
jayinhk wrote:Here are pics of one of the F1 knockoffs I picked up in a similar style: two hole, three hole then two hole (seven holes total) configuration inside.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPwFVACD1H3 ... e.hk&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPwFZ-RjO8f ... e.hk&hl=en
Is that different clay inside and out? Have you brewed with it?
Same clay inside and out--knockoff qingshuini. I haven't used this pot as I'm still trying to get my money back, but I have used another made with the same clay that made wonderful green tea, but the dank clay aroma persists even after use. I think it would dissipate with a few uses though. Oddly these knockoff pots do seem to make good tea. I have a real 70s pot in qingshuini that I absolutely love!

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