You will fall in love with jasmine tea

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by JRS22 » Sep 2nd 17 12:23 pm

My favorite jasmine tea is jasmine silver needles with pearls a close second. The silver needles usually don't have as much jasmine scent as the pearls so the silver needles flavor isn't masked.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by Bok » Sep 2nd 17 1:09 pm

I used to like Jasmine tea when I did not know any better teas, now I can not stand it any longer. Good tea does not need added scents, only mediocre ones. Seems to me Jasmine tea is more of a tourist kind of tea. Gimmicky pearls that reveal flowers, yet the taste is only ok-ish.

If I am not wrong in the old days when tea came from far South to the imperial capitals up north, the scenting kind of helped to improve the by then faded and impure teas.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by JRS22 » Sep 3rd 17 12:32 pm

All teas are available in a range of qualities so why should jasmine be any different? The large balls that unfold into flowers may be gimmicks, and the modern ones made with cheap tea that's been sprayed with jasmine perfume and decorated with petals may be covering up poor quality tea.

I find that the right combination of fresh quality tea properly scented with jasmine in the traditional manner evolves through several steps as the jasmine fades but doesn't disappear or disappoint. I don't start my tea day with it but I often end with it.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by Bok » Sep 4th 17 12:24 am

I can not think of any good tea that could be improved by adding flowery scent. If you take the tea used as a base without jasmine it won't be as nice as other pure teas, which was my point.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by janet11 » Sep 4th 17 6:56 am

JRS22 wrote: All teas are available in a range of qualities so why should jasmine be any different? The large balls that unfold into flowers may be gimmicks, and the modern ones made with cheap tea that's been sprayed with jasmine perfume and decorated with petals may be covering up poor quality tea.

I find that the right combination of fresh quality tea properly scented with jasmine in the traditional manner evolves through several steps as the jasmine fades but doesn't disappear or disappoint. I don't start my tea day with it but I often end with it.
They are infused with the scent of fresh petals added to the leaf, simply by placing them next to it during the drying process. These are truly fresh and not an essence or a dried blossom. It takes around four hours for the tea to absorb the jasmine scent, after which the petals are removed.
I think the scent of jasmine will neutralize the fragrance of tea leaves. It will be another flavor.
The quality of tea leaves should be guaranted.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by janet11 » Sep 4th 17 7:40 am

Bok wrote: I used to like Jasmine tea when I did not know any better teas, now I can not stand it any longer. Good tea does not need added scents, only mediocre ones. Seems to me Jasmine tea is more of a tourist kind of tea. Gimmicky pearls that reveal flowers, yet the taste is only ok-ish.

If I am not wrong in the old days when tea came from far South to the imperial capitals up north, the scenting kind of helped to improve the by then faded and impure teas.
It's depend on your taste. Someone enjoy the scent of Jasmine flower. Good tea will not be destroyed I think. Don't worry about that.
More and more different flavor will suitable for various tea lovers.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by Bok » Sep 4th 17 7:56 am

janet11 wrote: It's depend on your taste. Someone enjoy the scent of Jasmine flower. Good tea will not be destroyed I think. Don't worry about that.
More and more different flavor will suitable for various tea lovers.
All I am saying is that Jasmine does not need good tea as a base, as what makes the tea good, its inherent character, will be covered by the Jasmine.

It does not make any economic sense to use excellent tea to make Jasmine, if it can be sold without flavouring. Another common flavouring is Chrysanthemum flower with Puerh, in this case explicitely to cover what some find unpleasant flavours.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by Shine Magical » Sep 4th 17 1:56 pm

No one would add jasmine petals to tea that costs $1/gram.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by JRS22 » Sep 4th 17 4:42 pm

Bok wrote:
janet11 wrote: It's depend on your taste. Someone enjoy the scent of Jasmine flower. Good tea will not be destroyed I think. Don't worry about that.
More and more different flavor will suitable for various tea lovers.
All I am saying is that Jasmine does not need good tea as a base, as what makes the tea good, its inherent character, will be covered by the Jasmine.

It does not make any economic sense to use excellent tea to make Jasmine, if it can be sold without flavouring. Another common flavouring is Chrysanthemum flower with Puerh, in this case explicitely to cover what some find unpleasant flavours.
I agree with you about not scenting excellent tea. I do find that if good tea is used then as the jasmine fades the tea comes forward and can be appreciated as the "ratio" of tea to jasmine shifts.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by Bok » Sep 5th 17 12:56 am

JRS22 wrote: I do find that if good tea is used then as the jasmine fades the tea comes forward and can be appreciated as the "ratio" of tea to jasmine shifts.
That is an interesting observation!
do you get enough rounds out of them?
The Jasmine teas I have had in the past, even the better ones, rarely go past 2-3max. Green tea just doesn’t hold up well for multiple infusions…

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by MarcusReed » Sep 5th 17 1:02 am

Jasmine white tea will always be a special tea for me and my brother.l
The scent and feel to it is so calming. The energy from white tea is soothing with the added aroma of a good jasmine scent it seems to on aid this comfort felt.
Jasmine white tea was one of the first tea that my younger brother and I shared together. He and I both now enjoy it on occasions which we like to feel like we were in on the past.
So I can agree most will love with Jasmine tea, but I personally do not drink it often.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by janet11 » Sep 5th 17 3:14 am

MarcusReed wrote: Jasmine white tea will always be a special tea for me and my brother.l
The scent and feel to it is so calming. The energy from white tea is soothing with the added aroma of a good jasmine scent it seems to on aid this comfort felt.
Jasmine white tea was one of the first tea that my younger brother and I shared together. He and I both now enjoy it on occasions which we like to feel like we were in on the past.
So I can agree most will love with Jasmine tea, but I personally do not drink it often.
It's my pleasure to know that a cup of jasmine tea belongs to you and your brother.
I am always enjoy a graceful and relaxing jasmine tea, look for an establishment that provides jasmine tea in the afternoon.
Drinking a cup of jasmine tea will be part of my daily life I think.

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by john.b » Sep 5th 17 3:33 am

I tried jasmine black tea in Indonesia, a type common there, and I'd put it on par with Earl Grey. I don't drink that much Earl Grey--none this year yet, come to think of it--but I'm ok with it once in awhile.

I tried a version of jasmine black tea that has to be about as good as it gets not so long ago as a sample from Hatvala, from Vietnam.

http://teaintheancientworld.blogspot.co ... etnam.html

The issue came up here about how good the base tea would be before flavoring, and typically it would be so-so commercial tea. Per Hatvala's product information this is based on one of their standard black tea types I am familiar with, "wild boar." It's not expensive tea but quite nice, for the type and style it is, and I've ordered and finished a half a kilo of it before. That took awhile, but it's great to have extra for blending, for making something like masala chai without going all the way to using CTC Assam or Ceylon, and unless I have lots of a tea I don't feel right about giving some away to people.

Of course I can't really answer how good that black tea is (alone, unflavored) related to a certain scale, and issues of style and quality tend to mix a little. Per my impression if you picked a random vendor and ordered a Dian Hong or Taiwanese black (or Lapsang Souchong, whatever it was) in the range of $10 or so per 50 grams this tea would be on par with it, better than some, not as good as others. What-cha is selling it for $6.51 for 50 grams and I think it's a quite good value at that price (although you'd be crazy to not order it directly; Hatvala sells it directly for $1.75, and at that price they're almost giving you free tea, and shipping isn't that expensive).

What-cha's description (I'd add something about a touch of fruit but this is close enough):

Tasting Notes: Smooth texture, Rich taste, Taste of dark chocolate and malt
Harvest: Spring, April 2017
Tea Trees: Wild growing with an age between 200-800 years old
Tea Varietal: Camellia Sinensis var. Assamica
Altitude: 1400m+
Origin: Nui Giang, Yen Bai Province, Vietnam
Sourced: Specialist Vietnamese tea wholesaler Hatvala

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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by Bok » Sep 5th 17 6:44 am

Now thinking about it, for me it is the opposite of the topic title:
Fall out of love with Jasmine tea

Many moons ago, when I did not know much about tea or even where to get them from, except the local Asia-shop or Spice/Tea/Kitsch-shop, I used to like Jasmine a lot.

Now I wouldn’t touch it, time for tea is preciously short and little these days, too many better teas waiting in my stash!

Anyone remember these tins?
(awful stuff if I think about it now, but that is how I got started to get hooked on tea… haha
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Re: You will fall in love with jasmine tea

by dizzo » Sep 5th 17 9:50 pm

I think it depends on what you look for with tea. I Search for the finest teas that I can get my hands on, and I want to taste the tea. Each tea I drink has characteristics unique to itself that I wouldnt want to cover up with another flavor. I want to examine the roast of my Dong Ding. I want to lick the rocks of my yancha. I want to taste the clouds in my gaoshan.
But thats me. I have to keep Mo Li Yin Zhen in my house for my wife. She thinks my tea is terrible. :roll: